[VanDeKoik]

Ok, Ill play devil's advocate here.

What is your Plan B? If the DNC controls the House and Senate, what do YOU do. Yo talk of all the things that the current congress under GOP control does not do. We can all agree on that they aren't doing their job.

So now they are gone, replaced with left-wing Democrats that will right off the bat ignore you, start their wacky impeachment hearings, kill the war effort, and bring in tax hikes. Now what do you the "independent, conservative voter that will not pull the lever for liberal lite GOP candidates" do now? If you think posting on FR and bitching on Limbaugh for the next four years is a solution, we are all in deep trouble.

I dont like the idea of voting for a GOP guy because its not a Dem line myself. But I have to ask myself am I stupid enough to go over the cliff just to prove a point? Or is better to fight within a party in power to change it?

[wizardoz]

What is your Plan B? If the DNC controls the House and Senate, what do YOU do.

Hope it scares the bejesus out of the Republicans and they realize that in order to recapture the base in 2008 they have to run conservatives who really are conservative.

The message will be clearest if, rather than abstain from voting, we all vote for third party conservatives like Constitution party, a very conservative Independent, or Libertarian.

[guitfiddlist]

Ok, Ill play devil's advocate here. What is your Plan B? If the DNC controls the House and Senate, what do YOU do. Yo talk of all the things that the current congress under GOP control does not do. We can all agree on that they aren't doing their job.

Fair enough. We are caught in a situation where the GOP says "You need us. Therefore we can do anything we please - your wished be damned." And they are most decidedly not representing us on this most crucial of issues.

Well, they need us too. But they don't think we'll dump'em. They need to think again. The odd thing about mutual assured destruction is that it worked for 50+ years - and completely essential to the strategy was each side's belief that the other would absolutely follow through.

We don't have that faith in our seriousness from our GOP leaders. If they find out through polling that we ARE serious - they have a chance for an epiphany. If they're still to dull to learn - all is not lost - the next two years can be a painful yet constructive learning process for both them - and those voters that believe the 'Rats should be in charge of any more branches of government. I don't think the Senate is in danger of changing over - just the House - but House members hold their future in their own hands - via this particular vote.

What's the risk? Gridlock. But the illegal immigration status quo cannot continue, because it's a fast-track to the Third World. Insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results. And in this regard, insanity is continuing to crawl over broken glass to vote any candidate stamped "GOP", in the vain hope that they will represent us on this, but who instead continue with this hugely destructive policy.

The GOP leadership may just figger all this out. Now...or a little later.