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To: bvw

You said -- "Prayer is not despair."

Well, then... I would suggest this prayer --




"And, insomuch as we know that, by His divine law, nations like individuals are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of terrorism and war, which now desolates the land, may be but a punishment, inflicted upon us, for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole People? We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven. We have been preserved, these many years, in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us!

It behooves us then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness."




That is..., if you do pray and have the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as the object of your prayers...

Regards,
Star Traveler


431 posted on 04/23/2006 6:24:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
Who would you speak for? If you can't speak for your countrymen, your neighbors, your friends, co-workers and family -- including those you might have bitterness towards or might at times feel are fools, then whom do you speak for?

What god do you imagine hears your prayer?

Who is the ruler of your Heart?

Are you waylaid, your skin torn from flesh, tortured by bands of evil men, your family ruined and slaughtered before your eyes, your city emptied and destroyed? If that is the case maybe then G-d would in that moment or near moment of pungent remembrance bear the cry, the prayer of the tears, for vengeance, for rebuke -- only then of a such a shattered heart, emptied of all pride and hope.

Here, today, what part of you makes this call for rebuke? From pride's boldness may G-d never hear a prayer for such as you ask -- for vengeance, for rebuke! That is my prayer.

432 posted on 04/23/2006 6:52:29 PM PDT by bvw
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