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Quick action subdues man who tried to open jetliner door in air [Secret Service heroes]
AP ^ | 4/22/6

Posted on 04/22/2006 6:33:34 PM PDT by SmithL

DENVER -- Passengers aboard a United Airlines flight had some help when they had to take matters into their own hands to prevent Jose Manuel Pelayo-Ortega from bringing their plane down.

Three Secret Service agents headed west to join President Bush's entourage joined with passengers to subdue Pelayo-Ortega when he tried to open one of the doors on the Airbus A-320.

"Had he opened the door, we'd all be dead," passenger Donna Bell of Visalia, Calif., told the Sacramento Bee after the plane was searched and allowed to continue westward.

Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahensaid three agents between assignments help detain Pelayo-Ortega, who was taken off the plane after it made an emergency landing in Denver.

"That saved us," Ian Grossman of Chicago told the Bee. "You don't know what will happen if a guy like that is loose in the cabin."

The Bee reported that passenger Joe Pena, a senior airman at Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, Calif., described the incident as like a bar fight. "I heard a bunch of commotion, and I heard somebody yell 'What are you doing' and 'Get down,' then I saw the guy put into a chokehold, put on his back and pinned down so he couldn't move," Pena said in Sacramento, after hugging his tearful wife, Candy.

While Pelayo-Ortega was being detained, two F-16 fighter jets from Buckley Air Force Base east of Denver scrambled to intercept the plane, which carried 138 passengers and six crew. Had the plane "been judged as a threat by the highest levels of our government, they could make the decision to have the plane shot down," said Lt. Commander Sean Kelly, a spokesman for NORAD, a U.S.-Canadian military command based outside Colorado Springs that monitors missiles, aircraft and space objects and warns of threats.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
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1 posted on 04/22/2006 6:33:37 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Why do people go nuts on airplanes?


2 posted on 04/22/2006 6:38:24 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: SmithL

maybe he smoked some loco weed before takeoff and was so HIGH that he figured he didnt need the airplane anymore?


3 posted on 04/22/2006 6:40:51 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: Dallas59
Why do people go nuts on airplanes?

Not to mention, in post offices !

4 posted on 04/22/2006 6:42:20 PM PDT by llevrok (Take me to your blender !)
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To: SmithL

Illegal aliens do door openings on airplanes that Americans won't do.


5 posted on 04/22/2006 6:50:32 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: stinkerpot65
Now, stop that!

Very funny, though.

6 posted on 04/22/2006 7:36:37 PM PDT by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: stinkerpot65
You can not open an plug type door as long as the cabin is pressurized which it is in flight. This Meskin was trying to do the impossible.
7 posted on 04/22/2006 7:49:41 PM PDT by SAWTEX
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To: SmithL

I don't believe the door could be opened in flight even if someone wanted to. The doors generally sit on the inflatable seals from the inside out. So the more pressure in the fuselage of the aircraft, the harder the door is pushed outward against the seals.


8 posted on 04/22/2006 7:51:58 PM PDT by woofer2425 (Kerry LIED)
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To: SmithL
"I heard a bunch of commotion, and I heard somebody yell 'What are you doing' and 'Get down,' then I saw the guy put into a chokehold, put on his back and pinned down so he couldn't move,"

The legacy of flight 93 lives on...

9 posted on 04/22/2006 7:58:13 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: SAWTEX

Exactly. There is about 5 psi pressure differential with the cabin higher than the outside. The door is about 5 ft by 3 ft or 15 sq ft. A square foot is 144 sq inches.

You smart freepers get the picture. Jose would have had to be super Jose to open the door as they open inward.


10 posted on 04/22/2006 8:14:34 PM PDT by montomike (If you didn't find this funny and were offended...have a riot.)
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To: SmithL

Maybe the in-flight movie was Brokeback Mountain.


11 posted on 04/22/2006 8:16:03 PM PDT by YourAdHere (Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
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To: prophetic

He might have had a flashback to that commercial a couple of years ago where a passenger jumped from one plane to another in mid-flight because he didn't like the kind of coffee they were serving (it wasn't Colombian).


12 posted on 04/22/2006 8:19:22 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: stinkerpot65
Illegal aliens do door openings on airplanes that Americans won't do.

Is there a thread on FR that is not hijacked by some illegal immigration jihadist?

13 posted on 04/22/2006 8:20:15 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: SmithL
"Had he opened the door, we'd all be dead," passenger Donna Bell of Visalia, Calif.

This crap is reported as fact. 10 people couldn't open that door.

14 posted on 04/22/2006 8:23:06 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: SmithL

One of these times, everybody else is just going to strap themselves in and let the idiot try to open it, just to see what happens to him if he succeeds.


15 posted on 04/22/2006 8:28:42 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Watch that foist step. It's a lulu.")
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To: stinkerpot65

ROTFLOL Nice jab :)


16 posted on 04/22/2006 8:32:28 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: montomike
Exactly. There is about 5 psi pressure differential with the cabin higher than the outside. The door is about 5 ft by 3 ft or 15 sq ft. A square foot is 144 sq inches.

I'm happy he wasn't I a flight I had from Atlanta to Boston that had a broken seal. That door squealed for the entire flight. I still can't believe we didn't land shortly after we took off.

17 posted on 04/22/2006 8:34:10 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: stinkerpot65
Is he an illegal alien?

If so, GIVE HIM AMNESTY!

Let's have a demonstration, boycott and protest against the unfair treatment by the Secret Service Agents on the Airplane.

This is an unfair attack on this individuals rights!

Where is Cardinal Mahony when you need him to protect this illegal alleged alien?????
18 posted on 04/22/2006 8:34:17 PM PDT by petkus
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


19 posted on 04/22/2006 8:47:09 PM PDT by zip
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To: Last Dakotan
This crap is reported as fact. 10 people couldn't open that door

I wondered about that. Surely it would have happened before if it was that easy.

20 posted on 04/22/2006 9:35:37 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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