[B-Chan]

Hmmm. There's a spot missing from that graph: the one that predicts the date when consciousness is shown to be a computational epiphenomenon of brain matter that can be modeled succesfully by a Turing machine.

Upshot: Despite Dr. K's gnostic urge to transcend degenerate matter and exist as pure consciousness, there is no scientific definition of human consciousness, and no evidence that consciousness is something that can be simulated in a computer.

Dr. K can get back to me when he has a working definition of Mind. Until then, I'm going to regard everything he says as religious belief, not scientific fact.

[the invisib1e hand]

definitely one of the more relevant posts on this thread.

[Fitzcarraldo]

I agree. There's no way to prove that an entity has that "I know I exist" feeling, unless it's yourself.

Who would be willing to upload their mind into a black box if the outcome is that uncertain.