Back to the Border - Security first.

National Review Online ^ | 4/22/06 | Senator Bill Frist

[savedbygrace]

False Choice.

It's not necessary to send all XX million back. The template is over at the IRS. Sample a small percentage, and stomp on a few thousand to put the fear of The Man into the rest.

[webstersII]

"Many Freepers suffer from the Michael Savage disease and believe we should just round up every illegal and send them back to Mexico."

That isn't what you said in the earlier post. You said "forced detention and repatriation camps". Make up your mind. What's your point?

[ChicagoConservative27]

Is it true that if this amnesty bill passes, that the families of these illegals can come to US? So that would add another 20-30 million more of them? Scary.

[EverOnward]

"Some Freepers need to face the facts. Sending all illegals back to Mexico will never happen."

Because the elitists and corporations and politicans on the take will never allow it to.

"It is not politically possible. It is not logisticly possible."

Politically possible? Explanation please. Logistically possible? Logistically 12 million plus came north -- so logistically it's possible to go north but impossible to go south? Americans are by nature resourceful -- a little too complacent, but give us a chance -- we'll find a way.

"It is never ever going to happen."

Never say never.

"We need to try and make the best of a bad situation by sealing the border and dealing with the illegals that are already here in a humane and politically viable manner."

Is "viable" sorting out who was and wasn't here for two years? Where's the manpower for that? If you think you can't bus back 12 million, what makes you think you can bus back any at all? And let's talk of "humane" -- you think it's humane to be little more than a slave?

"There will never be forced detention and repatriation camps in this country......ever."

First I've heard of "camps" ... could you elaborate please.

"Get over it."

No.

Have a good day, now.

[texastoo]

Just think of how much money the Frist family will make off this shamnesty. When the guest workers bring all their family members, approximately 20 or 30 million more, the health care will be "free" (paid for by you and me).

Frist's family started HCA, Hospital Corporation of America. The family still remains the principal stockholders.

[trubluolyguy]

It's hidden pretty well Frist, I gotta give you that. But amnesty is in there. The second I saw Hagel's name I sensed "screw-job." It's a wonder you can't.

[PresidentFelon]

This is what I posted (read the whole thing, including the last sentence)

"Many Freepers suffer from the Michael Savage disease and believe we should just round up every illegal and send them back to Mexico. Try to work out the mechanics of sending every illegal alien home and tell me how it can be done without rounding-up large groups, interning them, and after working out a deal with Mexico if possible, repatriating them. How will it be done without forced detention and repatriation camps?"


This is what you posted:

"That isn't what you said in the earlier post. You said "forced detention and repatriation camps". Make up your mind. What's your point?"



If you had read the entire paragraph you would have (theoretically) understood "the point"


PresidentFelon

[ncountylee]

If India can build and operate a 3,000 mile barrier to protect it's country from jihadi invaders, why can't the US do the same with a smaller (2,000 mile) barrier to stop illegal alien invaders?

Oh, and since when is an invasion not an act of war?

[Mike Darancette]

Under their proposal, nobody who has violated immigration laws will get a free pass. Nearly everyone who has lived here illegally less than two years will have to return to their country of origin and apply through ordinary channels if they ever hope to live here legally. People who have lived here longer will have to pass rigorous background checks, learn English, and pay fines if they ever hope to achieve legal status.

The ideas are getting better if jumping through the hoops is required for legal status. But don't jump to a proposal before many more employers are raided and punished and the border is secured.

[snowman1]

You don't work out a deal, they are Mexican citizens, just unload themn and push them across the gorder and tell them to stay home.

[Mike Darancette]

Apparently Frist thinks we're absolute morons.

Obviously you, the Democrats, LaRaza and Mexico don't think that this is a good idea.

[rcocean]

Quit with the straw man arguments. No one cares what Savage says.

Enforce the law. Thats what we want. Not Amnesty. The Senate and Friest *Dont* want to enforce the law. Thats why they have linked amnesty to a fence and a higher budget for the BP. I won't be voting for Friest, I'm tired of his fence straddling and sell-outs.

There is no link between the two. Friest should have put an enforcement only bill up for a vote and let McCain and his Liberal Democrat buddies vote against it.

[Mike Darancette]

Secondly, do these idiots think any illegal alien is going to admit being here less than 5 years?

The illegal alien will manufacture 3-5 years of employment and then be forced to pay taxes on that phony employment income?

[PresidentFelon]

We are fortunate to live in the greatest nation on Earth and it is the duty of every American to make sure the dream of our Founding Fathers lives on. The Constitution is the foundation of our greatness and must be protected at any cost for the sake of our progeny. This Hoosier accepts those responsibilities.

"Have you read that recently?"


Absolutely.....the Constitution must be protected. If you think that the constitution is best served by rounding-up every illegal, interning them, and repatriating them (if Mexico will allow it), then we simply disagree.

Would I like for every illegal to go home? Absolutely. Will this country treat illegals as the Japanese nationals were treated in the 40's? It wll never happen without a fight that could seriously harm the country, and by extension, the constitution.

I want the border sealed now. I want employers prosecuted for hiring illegals, I want every law enforcement agency to turn illegals they discover to the INS for deportation. I want most of everything you want. Just not a forced repatriation program for 12 million people that would tear this nation to shreds.


PresdientFelon

[Mike Darancette]

We need to try and make the best of a bad situation by sealing the border and dealing with the illegals that are already here in a humane and politically viable manner.

Can we try to make them want to go home?

[arnoldpalmerfan]

First wants amnesty for millions of illegal aliens.

[PresidentFelon]

"Many Freepers suffer from the Michael Savage disease and believe we should just round up every illegal and send them back to Mexico. Try to work out the mechanics of sending every illegal alien home and tell me how it can be done without rounding-up large groups, interning them, and after working out a deal with Mexico if possible, repatriating them. How will it be done without forced detention and repatriation camps?"


Read the last sentence please.


PresidentFelon

[PresidentFelon]

Good luck on that one.

[peyton randolph]

Obviously you, the Democrats, LaRaza and Mexico don't think that this is a good idea.

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No. The Democrats, LaRaza, and Mexico love Frist's proposal. It allows illegals to fraudulently claim they've been here for more than 5 years, pay a fine, promise that they'll learn English, and receive amnesty. In other words, Frist is rewarding all 12 million for breaking the law while pretending he's being tough on border issues.

If Frist was concerned with border security, he'd be endorsing the bill that passed the House. He isn't.

Re-read what Frist wrote.

[arnoldpalmerfan]

La Raza and most Democrats do support the Hagel-Martinez amensty plan that is supported by Sen. Frist. I know of only one Democrat, Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, that opposes it. He opposes the giving of amnesty to millions of illegal aliens as the Hagel-Martinez plan does. The Hagel-Martinez Plan is also opposed by Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama and several other Republican senators.