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Hitler's Birthday Sparks Racial Violence in Russia
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| 04/21/06
Posted on 04/21/2006 10:58:21 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Hitler dispised Slavs enough to wipe them out in time. If he only allowed them into Arian race, there would have never been Stalingrad.
It seems Russia is becoming a classic Fascist state, along with China.
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Yes Hitler could have won the war easily imo if he'd not had a racial hatred of slavs. Which led German occupiers to terribly mistreat the eastern Europeans.. of which many had at first welcomed the Germans.
Like a lot of people in the poor east european nations, and in the Soviet occupied areas thought it would be great to be in the German economic sphere.
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posted on
04/21/2006 11:03:15 PM PDT
by
ran15
To: ran15
true, but i think the right side won
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posted on
04/21/2006 11:05:36 PM PDT
by
kinoxi
To: kinoxi
Definately in western europe. But for the poor slavs they lost either way.
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posted on
04/21/2006 11:14:47 PM PDT
by
ran15
To: TigerLikesRooster
Bizarre how human beings can rationalize into existence that which they wish to see. The man who wanted to exterminate them becomes their idol! You know, he just didn't understand! If we explained it to him he'd have felt differently!
At the end of the day, though, everyone loves power. And the masses love absolute power, absolutely.
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posted on
04/21/2006 11:19:16 PM PDT
by
starbase
(Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
To: ran15
nothing could be done for them, but i appreciate not living under a nazi regime was what i meant ;)
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posted on
04/21/2006 11:21:26 PM PDT
by
kinoxi
To: TigerLikesRooster
I'm personally very tired of April 20th being tied to horrors and disaster. Not only is it Hitler's birthday (which seems to motivate white-trash terrorism), the Soviet Union shot down a Korean airliner in 1978, the ATF raided The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord compound in northern Arkansas (pre-Waco training) in 1985, Benny Hill died in 1992, 1999 saw the slaying of 15 students and two lunatics at Columbine as well as the passing of wrestling great Rick Rude via steroid complications.
Thanks to God that this birthday was spared another mass tragedy. Scott Crossfield, legendary test pilot and engineer depicted in "The Right Stuff", went out gloriously when his private plane was hit by lightning. He was 83.
To: NewRomeTacitus
I'm personally very tired of April 20th being tied to horrors and disaster.
While I personally commiserate with your attempt to "re-brand" the occasion, I can't but note that all of your examples pathetically pale in the shadow of Herr Hitler, unfortunately.
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posted on
04/21/2006 11:52:58 PM PDT
by
starbase
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To: starbase
LOL! I keep perspective. It's just a dirge that my birthday is, by happenstance, tied to so much misery - most inspired to the birthday of the most notable monster of the 20th Century.
Most folks getting on in years avoid contemplating their birthdays because it reminds them of encroaching mortality. I abhor mine because I dread some nest of nutjobs committing yet another historic atrocity because of the date itself.
To: starbase
Mexicans love their Spanish conquerors to this day.
To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Mexicans love their Spanish conquerors to this day.
Yes, I was in a downtown pub in Portland, Oregon, and I happened to chat with a very Mexican looking dude. I said, "So how can you guys say any part of America belongs to you when the Indians NEVER signed over even one piece of dirt and said "Here, take our country, we don't want it anymore.".
He replied "Oh, that was the Spanish who stole it.". I was like, "OMG, how can you say that so arrogantly and pretend you have any rights at all??? Pretending it is your land???".
Just then, really loud music blared up and we couldn't talk anymore. Even though we both (cordially) wanted to chat.
Ridiculously, that is the level we are at with them. If we don't defend it, it's theirs! I say, DEFEND NOW!!!!!! BIG TIME!!!!
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posted on
04/22/2006 1:08:38 AM PDT
by
starbase
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To: TigerLikesRooster
It seems Russia is becoming a classic Fascist state, along with China.==
Russian state doesn't support skinheads. Quite opposite. Skinns got arrested frequantly and put in prison.
I heard that Skinns exist in Germany, Britain, France and even in United States. Does it mean that those countries are "fascist" states too?
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posted on
04/22/2006 1:35:51 AM PDT
by
RusIvan
To: ran15
Yes Hitler could have won the war easily imo if he'd not had a racial hatred of slavs. Which led German occupiers to terribly mistreat the eastern Europeans.. of which many had at first welcomed the Germans. ==
It is true.
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posted on
04/22/2006 1:37:39 AM PDT
by
RusIvan
To: RusIvan
Re #13
It is more widespread in Russia. Along with what Putin does and popular yearning for Great Russia that was, we cannot dismiss it as just extracurricular activities of kooks.
German state did not support Nazi movement initially, either. Russia looks like Germany in mid-1920's in terms of social situation. Economically, it is a different matter. Russia is now more like Saudi Arabia or South Africa, natural resource-based economy.
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posted on
04/22/2006 1:50:02 AM PDT
by
Wiz
To: TigerLikesRooster
Some people in Russia are unaware the Nazis regarded the Slavs as sub-humans (
untermenschen) fit only for annihilation. If the Russian skinheads only knew what the real Fuhrer thought of them. Ah, history repeats itself first as tragedy and now as farce.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
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posted on
04/22/2006 1:59:21 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: TigerLikesRooster
It seems so ironic (and distasteful) that if Hitler had included this group and that group, he could have won with a "master something or other"!! In reality, though, his evil genius was in limiting the concept of superiority, and in offering it only to a few.
While it's easy now to say he should have included all these different people in his (evil) vision, it is important to remember that he was just one of many vying for power in Germany. If he had not created an exclusive "club" as his main offering, then he would never have achieved absolute power in the first place. I believe he felt that that was enough to go on!!!
Including too many at the outset (or for that matter, at any time) would have prevented him from being the perverted force that he was in the first place!! Oh, Irony!!!
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posted on
04/22/2006 3:40:50 AM PDT
by
starbase
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To: TigerLikesRooster
It is more widespread in Russia. ==
How do YOU know it? Did you count skinns in Russia?
Russia looks like Germany in mid-1920's in terms of social situation. ==
Oh now Russia is something like Weimar republic?:) But FYI Weimar republic wasn't "fascist state" either. It came much later.
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posted on
04/22/2006 4:56:36 AM PDT
by
RusIvan
To: starbase
If he had not created an exclusive "club" as his main offering, then he would never have achieved absolute power in the first place. I believe he felt that that was enough to go on!!! Yes very good point.
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posted on
04/22/2006 7:51:37 AM PDT
by
ran15
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