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Cyber Heist Could Cost Consumers
ABC News ^ | April 21, 2006

Posted on 04/21/2006 9:38:57 PM PDT by bd476

Cyber Heist Could Cost Consumers

Consumer Groups Say Victims
Need More Information About the Heist




Thousands of consumers had their
debit card information stolen in a
recent cyber security breach.
(AP Photo)

April 21, 2006 — - After their banks quietly informed them their debit card and bank information may have been stolen, thousands of Americans could lose as much as $500 in money taken from their accounts.

In possibly the biggest incident of debit card hacking theft, thousands of U.S. consumers have been told that their bank accounts may have been compromised by computer hackers who stole debit information and personal identification numbers (PINs) from their bank accounts.

"This is the worse debit-PIN breach that has been reported to date," said Avivah Litan, analyst and digital banking expert at Gartner.

During the past few weeks, banks across the country quietly informed consumers who may have been victimized by the breach, which occurred more than a month ago.

Litan said that 200,000 to 300,000 consumers may have had new debit cards issued, and the banks reportedly monitored account activity for the consumers at risk. But some consumer groups questioned why the notification letters were not more specific about the details of the breach, such as whether it was a specific merchant whose security was compromised.

"The letters seem to be pretty vague. They're not being told where the breach occurred. The notices tell them that something happened, but it won't tell them where or how," said Gail Hillebrand of the nonprofit group Consumers Union. "If you're a consumer, it would help to know which retailer made your information available, because maybe you wouldn't want to shop there again."

One privacy expert said that banks and retailers often wrangle over the particulars of notifying consumers when a security breach occurs.

"No one wants to send out a security breach notice," said Chris Hoofnagle of the Electronic Privacy Information Center. "You instantly become a pariah, and the fear is that you'll start to lose customers."

Responsible for Money Lost?

Unlike credit cards, which by law hold consumers responsible for only $50 in the case of theft, card issuers can hold debit card holders responsible for up to $500 when their money is stolen. Electronic money transfers, including debit card transactions, are governed by a Federal Reserve Board regulation known as Regulation E. One of its stipulations puts the onus on consumers to report irregularities with electronic transfers. If consumers fail to notify card issuers about breaches in a "timely fashion," the card issuer could hold the consumer responsible for up to $500.

But Hoofnagle said it was doubtful that banks and merchants would hold consumers liable for such a large amount of money.

"I can't imagine when you have a breach like this, where the consumer is not at fault in any way, that banks would hold them responsible for that $500," Hoofnagle said.

At least one bank said the breach compromised an outside merchant, not the bank. Wachovia Bank released a statement saying that Visa notified the bank that "security breaches occurred at merchants or what are called third-party vendors."

The bank notified customers, issued new debit cards and monitored account activity. The Wachovia statement also made it clear that customers would not be held responsible, saying, "it's important for customers to know that if fraud is detected they are fully protected by Visa's zero liability policy, which means they will pay nothing in the event of a fraudulent purchase."

But if you're hacked, you'll still face difficulties.

"Even though you almost always get your money back, it's not a simple wrap," Litan said. "You have to go through all kinds of phone calls and forms, and it's a hassle."

In many cases, there is little justice for cyber thieves. Often authorities have little evidence to track the crimes, and hackers are known to respond to new cyber security measures with even better hacking technology.

"These crooks get away with it, and that's why they keep doing it. They've got about a one in a thousand chance of getting arrested," Litan said.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banks; debitcards; fraud; lifesavings
And on another equally disturbing note:

NBC 6 Net South Florida

Police: Man Used Personal Info To Steal From Bank Accounts

Alleged Identity Thief Targeted Victims From 80 To 100 Years Old

April 20, 2006

BAL HARBOUR, Fla. -- Investigators are searching for a man they say used the identities of his victims to steal tens of thousands of dollars.

Police said Torrance Ryals tricked victims, all over 80 years old, out of their life savings. Ryals is accused of taking a victim's name, date of birth and Social Security number to funnel money out of his or her account into his.

Capt. Greg Roye, of the Bal Harbour Police Department, said Ryals' oldest victim was 102 years old.

Police said Ryals used an identity theft scheme to get banks to send him debit cards in his victims' names.

"He would fill his bank account with their money and then he would draw from it and purchase items," Roye said.

Police and postal inspectors raided Ryals' home in Homestead on Thursday, confiscating furniture, televisions, groceries and other items, which detectives said Ryals paid for using the money he stole from his victims, who were residents of Bal Harbour and Aventura.

Investigators said they have photos that show Ryals at his bank, drawing from accounts of stolen money. Detectives said they also have boxes of receipts and money orders detailing how Ryals spent the money, including purchases from Winn-Dixie and from a pornographic Web site.

Police said they also have reason to believe that Ryals was headed to Georgia to invest in property.

"There's still money we don't know about," Roye said.

Bal Harbour detectives led a four-month investigation after a resident's relative complained of some fishy transactions.

"A daughter or son of one of the victims noticed the money was being diverted," Roye said.

Ryals was not at home during the raid, and police consider him to be on the run. His attorney, Alex Michaels, said his client is going to turn himself in on Friday.

Ryals will be charged with 92 counts of several different crimes, including money laundering, grand theft and criminal use of personal information.

Bal Harbour police ask anyone who sees Ryals to call them at (305) 866-5000.

Police: Man Used Personal Info To Steal From Bank Accounts


1 posted on 04/21/2006 9:39:00 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

I had my bank acct at Wachovia cleaned out in October 2005, via ATM withdrawals made in a dinky country called Estonia. My debit card was still in my purse. The crooks somehow stole all my card info, including my pin, made a fake card...and cleaned my account out down to $11.00.

Wachovia was great about the whole thing, put the money right back into my account without argument, and all I had to sign was a form that said I would turn the investigation over to them.


2 posted on 04/21/2006 11:18:59 PM PDT by singlemomofone
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To: singlemomofone

That's good that they refunded the money. I wonder how this keeps happening.


3 posted on 04/21/2006 11:47:36 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476
"You instantly become a pariah, and the fear is that you'll start to lose customers." ... "I can't imagine when you have a breach like this, where the consumer is not at fault in any way, that banks would hold them responsible for that $500," Hoofnagle said.

Banks can screw customers. Its a tradition.
4 posted on 04/22/2006 1:25:00 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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