[lOKKI]

I don't really know how you can be so stupid as to say there was only one moslem (sic)in the service because that's the one you heard about on tv

Williams -

You're still hung up on the trivia - manfully trying to twist one statement, while ignoring my argument. The point is, and was,

Where is the visible symbol of Muslim-American patriotism? You accuse me of making assumptions while making your own. You accuse me of saying that they're all bad, but you - without offering any proof - assume they're all good

I've shown where, in WWII, the Japanese-Americans made a dramatically visible effort to show their loyalty. I asked you to some me some demonstration of a similar effort by Muslims... I'm still waiting... until then, my assumptions - with ONE example of a negative - have more statistical probability than your assumptions with zero examples....

Simple, eh? Show me your examples of Muslim-American patriotism.... don't bother with more assumptions... Why, for example is a Muslim Chaplin in the Navy a symbol of patriotism?

http://cayankee.blogs.com/cayankee/2005/09/imam_resigns_as.html

Links, please. tick, tick, tick...... I'm weary of this argument, and don't wish to carry it farther, but your assumptions that my assumptions are wrong, are unproven, and your casual sweeps of the hand with nothing to back them up are irritating.....

[Williams]

Your weariness is a good thing. So you have concluded that all or most Japanese Americans were patriotic - for the USA? I will suggest to you that certainly there were unpatriotic Japanese in America at the time. Japan was a ruthless, fanatical, and religion driven power, much like radical Islam is today. But you think there is something especially evil about all Moslems that they are all supporters of terrorism, even when they live in the United States?

I responded, initially, to childish posts about finding Mercca by the smell,etc. And yes, Saudi Arabia is also our ally, has been for decades, and is absolutely essential to Western stability and the war on terror.

And further, what evidence do you have that three Malaysian astronauts are terrorist sympathizers who should be mocked for trying to practice their religion, just as our astronauts have done?

Let's try patriotism and logic but not blind hatred.