Posted on 04/21/2006 11:46:49 AM PDT by blam
My comments obviously do not apply to any terrorist, or any terrorist supporter or sympathizer. That person's religion, or their version of it, I can easily learn to hate.
He helped you get into grad school and his wife?
Damn! I wish I'd had professors like that when I was in college.
But I also no my history and I know that when some of my ancestors were forced to choose between expulsion, conversion, or death by Christian Spain, 500 years ago, it was the Muslim Ottoman Empire, who gave them refuge.
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Dang missing comma.
And he still has to figure out where "Mecca" is every time!
This would almost be funny if I didn't think some Mullah would be waiting on him at splashdown to cut his head off.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!
Yeah, you're right. All I know about the so-called "religion of peace" is what I saw on Sept. 11, 2001, the Nick Berg video, the school children in Russia, the failure of most of the rest of the Muslim world to publicly condemn those responsible for Muslim violence, etc. Need I go on? Naw, just re-read my last phrase until it begins to sink in.
All you know is what you've seen on TV - huh. No wonder you're so narrow minded.
If only you'd visited Madrid, or London, or Bali, or Israel, or Holland in the last few years.
Then you'd have a better understanding of the 'Religion of Peace'.
Seriously folks, I understand that you can't judge all of the members of a religion by the actions of a few, but when the kids in my family, misbehave, I expect the other members of the family to stop them.
Anybody listening in Mecca?
Where is the denouncement against these acts by the few?
Where is the action to stop them? Until other Islamists take action to stop these horrors, we cannot determine who are our friends and who are our enemies. In WWII there was an entire unit of Japanese American soldiers who fought bravely and well in Europe for the United States. The only Muslim I've heard in our military about rolled a grenade into a tent
Once again, what you "heard of" is not the sum total of reality. Obviously there are other moslems serving in the Armed Forces.
DOWN!!??
It's in California too! In the desert.
Name one
You've used my bit of hyperbole to set up a strawman to knock .... the premise being that I only know what I've heard, and that of course there are muslims in the military... well... name one.
I can give you medal of honor winners for Japanese Americans in World War II...
http://www.njamf.com/remember.htm
Name for me either:
1. A prominent Muslim American spokesperson who has spoken out against the radicals
2. A muslim unit in the American Army which is fighting terrorists...
You get extra points for both, but I'll bet that you can't name either.
In which case, my argument remains true... the only Muslim in the Army that has been in the news was the the one who attempted to kill his fellow soldiers.
Put up time, snide one.
But whether I'm being snide, insulting or anything else, I don't really know how you can be so stupid as to say there was only one moslem in the service because that's the one you heard about on tv. Frankly, I am not especially aware of Jews, Christians, Hindus, or any other group in the military. But if one of them commits a crime I will not assume that is the only one. We have moslems in the service, we have moslem allies throughout the world. That is reality.
Williams -
You're still hung up on the trivia - manfully trying to twist one statement, while ignoring my argument. The point is, and was,
Where is the visible symbol of Muslim-American patriotism? You accuse me of making assumptions while making your own. You accuse me of saying that they're all bad, but you - without offering any proof - assume they're all good
I've shown where, in WWII, the Japanese-Americans made a dramatically visible effort to show their loyalty. I asked you to some me some demonstration of a similar effort by Muslims... I'm still waiting... until then, my assumptions - with ONE example of a negative - have more statistical probability than your assumptions with zero examples....
Simple, eh? Show me your examples of Muslim-American patriotism.... don't bother with more assumptions... Why, for example is a Muslim Chaplin in the Navy a symbol of patriotism?
http://cayankee.blogs.com/cayankee/2005/09/imam_resigns_as.html
Links, please. tick, tick, tick...... I'm weary of this argument, and don't wish to carry it farther, but your assumptions that my assumptions are wrong, are unproven, and your casual sweeps of the hand with nothing to back them up are irritating.....
Williams -
You're still hung up on the trivia - manfully trying to twist one statement, while ignoring my argument. The point is, and was,
Where is the visible symbol of Muslim-American patriotism? You accuse me of making assumptions while making your own. You accuse me of saying that they're all bad, but you - without offering any proof - assume they're all good
I've shown where, in WWII, the Japanese-Americans made a dramatically visible effort to show their loyalty. I asked you to some me some demonstration of a similar effort by Muslims... I'm still waiting... until then, my assumptions - with ONE example of a negative - have more statistical probability than your assumptions with zero examples....
Simple, eh? Show me your examples of Muslim-American patriotism.... don't bother with more assumptions... Why, for example is a Muslim Chaplin in the Navy a symbol of patriotism?
http://cayankee.blogs.com/cayankee/2005/09/imam_resigns_as.html
Links, please. tick, tick, tick...... I'm weary of this argument, and don't wish to carry it farther, but your assumptions that my assumptions are wrong, are unproven, and your casual sweeps of the hand with nothing to back them up are irritating.....
I responded, initially, to childish posts about finding Mercca by the smell,etc. And yes, Saudi Arabia is also our ally, has been for decades, and is absolutely essential to Western stability and the war on terror.
And further, what evidence do you have that three Malaysian astronauts are terrorist sympathizers who should be mocked for trying to practice their religion, just as our astronauts have done?
Let's try patriotism and logic but not blind hatred.
Please get back to me with evidence that the modern US Military organizes units by any religion, race, etc? Hopefully you know we don't create black units any longer.
Cheap shot and a waste of time, Williams.
You continue to evade the point, and it's obvious that you'll continue to.
Since you'll deny that, I'll reiterate.....
Where is the visible demonstration of American Muslim rejection of the tactics and objectives of the terrorists....?
However, this conversation is over. I've no desire to descend into a flame war with you... and you've nothing substantive to add to the discussion in any case but you assumptions and feelings.
As far as outer space is concerned, Uranus would probably offer a direct line of sight to Mecca.
Pedophiles, Satanic worshippers, and mass murdering Nazis can be as nice as Doris Day. That doesn't mean we want them in leadership positions for what has been (historically) a Christian nation.
OK well I guess you have decided that you hate moslems, period. I feel sorry for you because you are not seeing reality. I know moslems personally who are decent god fearing people holding responsible jobs, and who are I assure you not pedophiles, satan worshippers or mass murderers. Get some perspective. Jew don't have horns either. It's a very safe feeling to have an immature one dimensional view of the world, but it is not reality.
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