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Appeals Court Rules No Additional TWA Flight 800 Records Will Be Released
NEWS MEDIA UPDATE - FIRST CIRCUIT ^

Posted on 04/21/2006 11:14:52 AM PDT by Hal1950

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To: texas_mrs

Exactly. But I think Clinton played a huge part in the cover-up. He never wanted to deal with terrorism.""

My thoughts exactly.

Clinton cannot even deal with Hillary on the warpath.....


41 posted on 04/21/2006 6:47:05 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: RoadTest

"Who was on that plane that somebody in government wanted assassinated"

"LOL! Rather er stupid way to assassinate someone don't you think?"

No. Would that consideration stop some of the people we have in this world?""

Have you forgotten Ron Brown?????


42 posted on 04/21/2006 6:49:45 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Knuckledragger

If Flt 800 had just taken off, how could it have almost empty tanks????


43 posted on 04/21/2006 6:52:38 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: texas_mrs

""Exactly. But I think Clinton played a huge part in the cover-up. He never wanted to deal with terrorism.""


Bingo

1. he was afarid that confronting terrorism would hurt the economy and stock market-Dick Morris

2. He was afraid that Bob Dole's war hero status would cause people to rally to Dole if we ended up going to war ( i disagree, but that what Willy thought)


44 posted on 04/21/2006 6:53:18 PM PDT by georgia2006
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To: ridesthemiles
If Flt 800 had just taken off, how could it have almost empty tanks????

This is NORMAL. You only put fuel in the center tank if you absolutely have to. You always want the fuel in the wings. Hard to explain, but the plane flies more efficiently with fuel distributed throughout the wings rather than in the belly.

Notice one of the 737s that blew up hadn't had the center tank filled in like a month? Again, you only use that center tank if you have to for range or fuel reserve reasons, and if you do, that's the tank you drain first.

45 posted on 04/21/2006 7:15:48 PM PDT by Knuckledragger
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To: Hunble

My dh is a military and an airline pilot...so thank you :)


46 posted on 04/21/2006 9:00:37 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President** I get it, Glenn.)
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To: ridesthemiles

""LOL! Rather er stupid way to assassinate someone don't you think?"

No. Would that consideration stop some of the people we have in this world?""

Have you forgotten Ron Brown?????"

Thank you. That's the one I couldn't remember.


47 posted on 04/22/2006 4:23:28 AM PDT by RoadTest (The wicked love darkness; but God's people love the Light!)
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To: Hal1950
If you step over a bees nest your gonna get stung.
ofcourse your correct when the phrase coverup comes about.
You have to think logistics when it comes to oweing up.
Inocent til proven guilty right?
I mean c'mon the people who hold secret docs and ect. are average citizens of the united states right?
You can say citizen with a VIP pass.
We are all like just the little worker ants with our little paths paved out to bring some good ol american pie home wouldn't you say? money money money we earn more "social security" than our old ripe age will recieve eventual before death. Nothings perfect excecpt our gov't, they never make mistakes and every air plane ever built was perfected for flight. Na wait hydrolic lines blow out, windows get the wrong screws n blowout, "autopilot nagigation" never vears off course right? Wrong the stress just builds and builds until the number of decompressions gets to great and the roof tears off like a tin can. The wrong data conveyed always can lead to a plane crash. Hell even our own little egotistical niehbor ants like to blow up planes. Its sad, very sad when lifes depart before they can spend thier social securtity I mean before the ripe age. There is always a gain at ones loss. Maybe a better company can build 747's. Lets get some stock rolling eh? Lets tax somthing else. Why don't we just legalize a market that isn't taxed but brings in trillions globaly. Oh wait I forgot drugs are bringing in money from fines, frozen acounts and good old big brother protecting us. Maybe the statistics say it's good. I mean if we get all that oil we can tax more of that too. I hate dealing politics but everything comes down to money. I ain't no leader so i have money.
48 posted on 04/29/2006 4:29:14 AM PDT by Suavez81 (If you step over a bee hive your gonna get stung.)
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To: Hal1950; ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; potlatch; ...
DOMESTIC TERRORISM ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be put on or taken off this list. Thanks.
49 posted on 04/29/2006 4:33:44 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: RoadTest
It looks like the FOIA laws need to be changed to explicitly amended to include coverups initiated by the Clinton administration.

As it stands when any government agency sees the "Clinton coverup" drawer they just add another lock when they get a FOIA request.
50 posted on 04/29/2006 4:34:44 AM PDT by cgbg (Should traitors live long enough to have book deals?)
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To: WoofDog123
My view is that the Clinton administration had a "deep denial" approach to Muzzie terrorism.

They had a domestic agenda they wished to pursue, and did not want it sidetracked by a War On Terror.

Therefore they were prepared to cover up any terrorist acts one way or another--blame them on white supremacists, fuel tanks, mechanical error, pilot error, anything. Perhaps Vince Foster's murder is related somehow. His body was dumped across from the street from the Saudi Ambassador's residence and middle eastern men were hassling and attempting to intimidate one of the witnesses in the case. To hold the coverup Clinton may have made a deal with the Saudis--you can take care of your own terrorist nationals on our soil so we both deny anything is happening.

(Saudis--hired to do the job Clintonites won't do. :-) )
51 posted on 04/29/2006 4:44:59 AM PDT by cgbg (Should traitors live long enough to have book deals?)
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To: plain talk

Who was on that plane that somebody in government wanted assassinated?
LOL! Rather er stupid way to assassinate someone don't you think?


Was the mission accomplished?

Did the perps get away??


52 posted on 04/29/2006 6:45:00 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks for the ping!


53 posted on 04/29/2006 8:35:33 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: plain talk
Would that consideration stop some of the people we have in this world?

"Yes, of course it would."

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Just like the presence of children on the planes that hit the WTC stopped the hijackers -- right?

Riiiiiight...

54 posted on 04/29/2006 9:05:47 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!)
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To: DoughtyOne; Hal1950
I was raised to respect the FBI. I enjoyed reading books about the agency and thought highly of it.

Over the last 14 years, that respect and trust has been utterly destroyed. It's so bad that you even have to question the courts these days. Our justice system has certainly gone down hill.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Very Well Put!

I grew up listening to "The FBI in Peace and War" and "The Untouchables". The "G-Men" were truly my heroes.

Then, what I read and saw about Waco, Ruby Ridge, WTC 1, TWA 800, etc. very nearly destroyed my trust and admiration for "our" "glorious and honorable" law enforcement agencies.

But was my "up close and personal" investigation of their activites re OKBOMB that turned that trust into abhorrent disdain.

Now, I seriously doubt that I will live long enough to see that trust restored -- even if the FBI, the BATFE, the CIA, the Courts, and the DOJ -- for starters -- were totally disbanded today ...and were rebuilt from scratch by someone I trust explicitly.

In my sad experience, I fear the rot in those agencies is simply too deep and noxious. Now that those we once trusted to dig out and publish the truth have become the prime actors in destroying and hiding that truth, I fear that justice in our land has passed beyond reach...

55 posted on 04/29/2006 9:33:35 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!)
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To: Ghengis
I understand that this theory is a joke amongst those involved in airline security/safety. It seems that the explosion could not ever be emulated as the investigators claim.

Oh, I dunno, give NBC enough 747s and lots of sparklers and flares, they might get one to go for the cameras...it worked with the GM pickups, iirc.

56 posted on 04/29/2006 9:56:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I was raised to respect the FBI. I enjoyed reading books about the agency and thought highly of it.

Over the last 14 years, that respect and trust has been utterly destroyed.

Same here, but I'm a great-grandfather. I lost respect for them over Ruby Ridge. That was the start. Waco took things down another notch, especially from what I saw of the Congressional hearings, and by the time they were talking about OK City and in an all-fired hurry to destroy the crime scene, I smelled a few rats.

When they 'investigated' the Flight 800 incident, they laboriously yabbled about the number of man-hours involved, and the number of people they interviewed.

That is a fine cover-up for not asking the right people the right questions. It might play well enough with the average sofa spud catching the sound bytes on the nightly news, but it set off my BS alarm.

Especially when I was reading from non-mainstream sources that a multitude of people who saw 'something bright, leaving a trail (sometimes) heading up toward what became a fireball in the sky, and that these folks, by and large (well over 100 of them) were not being interviewed, even after contacting the agency.

At that point, I, for one, felt that the agency had gone from being a federal investigative arm to the folks who produced the supporting script for whatever the Clintons wanted us to hear.

While they are cleaning out the Clinton-era (leaker) people (moles) at CIA, maybe they should look at the FBI as well.

57 posted on 04/29/2006 10:12:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Crispus Attucks Patriot
One of the earliest media distortions of the Kennedy assasination was the press going on about how "Jackie was helping the Secret Service Agent onto the limo".

She was on her way out of the car (over the trunk) when he pushed her back in.

It got worse from there as the Shakespearian unfolding continued, with Oswald shot, Jack Ruby dying, etc.

The Warren Report delivered the conclusions only, unless you wanted to shell out for the full set of volumes, and even then much remains sealed to this day.

58 posted on 04/29/2006 10:28:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: plain talk
LOL! Rather er stupid way to assassinate someone don't you think?

No. Ron Brown, KAL 007, and others.

Pretty minor collateral damage too (over water), if the target is important enough to the right people.

Make the 'crash' officially accidental and the most unfortunate demise becomes just another footnote.

59 posted on 04/29/2006 10:32:32 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

There are so many problems with Ruby Ridge, Waco and the OKC Bombing that it's difficult to know where to start. The one common thread is that federal agencies were involved, and each one screwed up incredibly.

With Waco it went all the way to the White House. Janet Reno, Webster Hubble and I suspect the Clintons were in it up to their elboes.

Reno had been briefed that the gas they wanted to use was contraindicated for situations where there were small children. She signed off anyway.

These three events would have generated the anacronym FUBAR if it hadn't already been created.

Then TWA 800 came along. Can anyone remember the FBI and the CIA commandeering another airline crash investigation from the FAA? Can anyone remember the FBI fielding questions regarding a crash? Can anyone remember a CIA agent standing in the background at each press conference?

Nah, only the BATF and the FBI could team up to make the overall performance of the INS look good by comparison.


60 posted on 04/29/2006 10:46:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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