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To: Badray
A renewed GOP centered on Constitutional principles without pandering, without special favors for certain groups, with respect for freedom, without its hands in the pockets of taxpayers would be larger than the current GOP, and stronger. Such a party would retain power for generations to come.

And IF I had born a Rockerfeller - I wouldn't have to worry about my bills.

If pigs had wings they could fly.

The reality is - this is and always will be a two-party system. If we don't elect Republicans, then Democrats will win - its that simple.

I know there are conservatives who feel that letting the dems win will galvanize conservatives to turn the Republican Party towards the right.

What they don't realize is the terrible irreversible damage the dems would do to our nation in the interim.

The other thing that many do not realize is that only about 1/3 of Americans consider themselves to be conservative. There is no way that 1/3 will ever be able to outweigh the other 2/3s. The farther to the right we pull the Republican Party - the more voters we'll push into the Democratic Party. Not a good thing in my book.

29 posted on 04/21/2006 11:25:39 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Tokra
Actually, I have good news for you.

Polls consistently show more Americans self-describe themselves as "conservative" than any other political affiliation/leanings.

31 posted on 04/21/2006 11:50:36 AM PDT by Impeach98
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To: Tokra
P.S. Personally I'm less interested in the health of the Republican Party than I am in the health of the conservative movement.

If the GOP ceases to be the party that advances conservative beliefs then what should I care about it's success?

So, whatever it takes to get the GOP back on track on certain issues such as federal spending, growth of government, illegal immigration, etc... is fine with me. Because in the end I want the GOP to be a conservative party or else it will no longer be the party I identify with.

33 posted on 04/21/2006 11:52:38 AM PDT by Impeach98
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To: Tokra

Did I advocate a third party?

I only said that the party should take one side of an issue.

How does taking both sides of an argument advance your principle?

An example:

The GOP, in all of its many manifestations, whole heartedly supported pro abortion Arlen Specter when he was challenged by conservative, pro life Congressman Pat Toomey. Even 'pro life' Rick Santorum supported Specter.

Fast forward to Rick's race right now. The GOP is blasting his presumed Democrat candidate for not being pro life ENOUGH!

Do you see any inconsistency?

They support a pro abortionist, but condemn a pro life opponent for not supporting life ENOUGH!

Even if that escapes you, it hasn't escaped the attention of lots of pro life Republicans.

The GOP doesn't give a damn about what you believe as long as you support them with your money and votes. All they (or the DNC) want is power. Talk of principles are just the buttons that they push to open your wallet.

Do you really think that they care about what you think when they send those 'exclusive' surveys (that probably most people get)? No, they are just finding out what your hot buttons are so they can send you the appropriate fund raising letter with the red meat that will get you to give them money.


37 posted on 04/21/2006 12:03:54 PM PDT by Badray
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