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The only reason ILLEGALS won't get tossed out is if defeatists such as yourself win out. I doubt they will in the long run. The vast majority of Americans want the ILLEGALS out of our country. Can't deport them? That idea has been debunked so many times on FR people are tired of doing it. It has been outlined very nicely on FR how we can get rid of them, several different ways in fact. What we lack is political will, our pols would rather pander for votes and/or suck up to business buddies, and that includes Bush, then take care of the country and the legal residents and citizens.

No amnesty, deport them all, secure the borders. And, oh, yeah, vote third party in Nov if they don't fix this situation by then.

ILLEGALS won't get tossed out is if defeatists such as yourself win out.

Fuggedaboutit. The illegals are not going to be deported unless they are caught in other criminal acts.... i.e., after their initial criminal act of being here. Deportation is an attractive enough idea, but you just haven't the votes to get it done.

The question is, "What are we going to get done?" We need a locked-down border. We need real penalties for employers of illegals. We need to end birthright citizenship for the children of illegals. We need to end any benefits for illegals ... tuition, welfare, medical care, driver licences. In short, we need to remove the incentives for the criminal entrants and their employers. If that were done, many illegals might deport themselves and be unable to return.

But, even if we kicked out every illegal alien tonight, those Latinos here legally, or at least-semilegally, are still a demographic time-bomb that has altered the US already, and in 100 years will make us a bi-cultural nation, particularly in the Southwest. 100 years after that, we could be a distinctly minority European nation. Just like the European nations of today are in the process of becoming.

By getting illegal immigration under control, we can achieve some assimilation, hoping to make the future US function somewhat more like a good day in Chile or Argentina, and hopefully less like a dysfunctional Third World hellhole such as Bolivia, Guatemala, or Mexico.

This, IMHO, is what Tancredo is trying to accomplish. Stop the hemorraghing border and start working on the rest. Deportation? Sure, whenever you can manage it through law enforcement. Traffic ticket, D&D, ADW,... hell, spittin' on the sidewalk, send'em back.