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Detroit produces the top teams in both the NBA and NHL
Yahoo Sports ^ | 04/19/2006 | Larry Lage

Posted on 04/19/2006 8:04:29 PM PDT by jazzo

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To: Skip Ripley

>>By making a conference finals, Detroit proved themselves ready to make the next step. The Mavs aren't ready.<<

You are really making a fool out of yourself.

DALLAS MADE THE CONFERENCE FINALS, DUDE. And as stated several times, it doesn't matter whether they did or didn't, as there is no one progression to a championship. Explain how SA and LA won a championship with worse progressions than Dallas has made.

>>BTW, Dallas' last five years are NOT better than Detroit's prior to winning in 2004. <<

This is just WRONG. Go back and read post 52. There's no way you can say Detroit's was better. NO WAY.

>>Detroit improved their showing each year and won a fricking title.<<

Prior to winning the title, Dallas had done better than they had.

Your arguments still boil down to you attempting to say that because Dallas hasn't won a title, they can't or won't win one. That's truly idiotic. I don't understand why you are having such a hard time understanding what you wrote.

>>They never made it back to the confernece finals after getting there once. <<

Actually, they've been to the WCF twice. Once in the last 5 years, but that's not the issue. There's no rule requiring one to be in the finals the year after being in the conference finals, or there's no way one can win. That's idiotic.

>>How in the heck do you figure that going backwards towards your goal is better than going forwards toward your goal? <<

As before, you are making things up. I didn't say is was "better." What I said was that it had happened.

>>Dallas winning this year would indeed be from out of nowhere because they haven't shown an ability to beat the Western conference's only complete team, the San Antonio Spurs when it counts...in May.<<

They beat them twice in May two or three years ago and likely would have won that series had Dirk not gotten hurt. No excuses; SA won, but your statement is incorrect. Besides, this is a different team with a different coach.

Again, by your standard, Detroit had not shown it could beat Boston in 1987, so I guess that proves they didn't beat them the next year or two. You can't get away from your circular reasoning, since that's the only basis you've given for your arguments. Not matchups, coaching, talent, fans, whatever. Just history. But history is never on the side of a team that's never won a championship. Just like the Cowboys were called "next years champions" back in the late '60s and early '70s due to their repeated losses in conference championship games or Super Bowls, wasn't an indication that they weren't going to eventually win one.

>>Stack REALLY does suck in the playoffs though<<

He played OK last night.

I think the Mavs win this series in 4 or 5 games, then wait for what will likely be SA in the second round. I think that series goes 6 minimum, and its questionable whether the off time the Mavs will likely (but not certainly) get will help or hurt. I think this year, it will help because of injuries.

However, if last night is any indication, I think the Mavs have a very good chance to defeat the Spurs in what will likely be a very good 7 game series -- probably the best series of the entire playoffs this year. After that, frankly, I'm not that worried since I think the Mavs match up well with Detroit. Of course, that assumes Detroit wins the East, which they should do.


61 posted on 04/24/2006 10:02:32 AM PDT by 1L
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To: jazzo

If the Tigers finish above .500, for their fans, that's like winning the World Series.

And if the Lions finish above .500, that's like the eighth seal.


62 posted on 04/27/2006 9:05:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: colgin
It is much more likely to be Dallas celebrating the dual championships

Can I have a hit of that PCP you must be smoking?

63 posted on 04/27/2006 9:21:02 AM PDT by wireman
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To: 1L

That was a nice win for the Mavs. Game 2 is usually the "stealable" game on the other guy's floor and they went out and took it.

The Spurs have their work cut out for them....


64 posted on 05/10/2006 6:01:24 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: Skip Ripley

I was worried that the Mavs had lost the series in one game Sunday by playing poorly (compared to how they played in the first round, but understanding the opponent was much tougher) and not taking advantage of SA's lack of rest. Apparantly, last night's win was in large part the result of SA's first round series, since SA didn't have a lot in the tank to do much other than scream at the officials. The other good thing about last night was that Dirk had a good, but not great game. If he lights it up this weekend in Dallas, we are in good shape.

I predicted before this series started that Dallas would win in 6. At this point, its just wishful thinking: I don't care if I'm right or wrong as long as they win!

I did see part of the Pistons game. They'll probably beat Cleveland in 5 at worst.


65 posted on 05/10/2006 9:39:01 AM PDT by 1L
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To: jazzo

Ok, so the Red Wings were eliminated, and the Pistons are on the verge of elimination.


But who cares, look who has the best record in baseball.....The Tigers!!!!

The Roar is Restored!!!!


66 posted on 05/19/2006 2:39:26 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: dfwgator

The Lions are also tied for first place.


67 posted on 05/19/2006 2:42:26 PM PDT by JTHomes
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To: 1L

I will say one thing and one thing only....Sunday is going to be verrrrry interesting.


68 posted on 05/20/2006 2:23:00 PM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: Skip Ripley

Yep. But I think the Mavs lost the series last night. I'm not optimistic about game 7. Avery did by far his worst coaching job and the Mavs were flat last night. No serious winning effort; more of playing not to lose. I've been very dissapointed in the home crowd. This isn't like the Maverick crowds of the late '80s in Reunion Arena. That place rocked.

Different fan type, I guess.


69 posted on 05/20/2006 8:29:41 PM PDT by 1L
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To: 1L

I've got to hand it to the MAvs....they had a number of chances to fold last night and they didn't. Some guys that I disparaged like Diop, Van Horne and Stack had some key baskets and Dirk played very well all night.

They proved something to me with that win. The finals ought to be interesting match ups in both conferences.


70 posted on 05/23/2006 10:36:54 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: jazzo

Excuse me but the Detroit Pissed-ons and their top thug Rashid Wallace, have not won the NBA Championship yet. FYI, the season is not over.


71 posted on 05/23/2006 10:38:40 AM PDT by no dems (I guess I'm a "Johnny one-note" type voter, but I'll keep singing out against abortion.)
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To: no dems

ever notice that the only way pistons can win is thru the use of thugs? lambeer, rodman, agguire, etc in the late 80s- and the jerks they have now.


72 posted on 05/23/2006 10:56:37 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Skip Ripley

I told you that the past is not a perfect predictor of the future. But nobody has won anything yet.

I think Dallas Phoenix will be entertaining.


73 posted on 05/23/2006 2:03:41 PM PDT by 1L
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To: absolootezer0

Mark Aguire was no thug. He may very well have been a jerk (and acted like it several times as a Maverick), but he was not a thug.

If anything, many Mavs fans would have preferred he be a little nastier on the court than he actually was.


74 posted on 05/23/2006 2:04:58 PM PDT by 1L
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