[chris1]

Its not fair, but Ann is dead right. Bad things are much more likely to occur with bad behavior than if you are just minding your own business.

These Duke students are not only immature and dumb, but naive and reckless.

[jammer]

Ann is half right. The point you make is, of course, correct. However, there is another point that is wrong--she also wants us to draw the inference that the situation somehow is caused by the innocent, but stupid. That is not dead right. It is dead wrong.

Endlessly reiterating your opinion--our opinion?--of the students only obfuscates the point I am questioning (I do see that you're an attorney, so it must be natural).

[Ken H]

These Duke students are not only immature and dumb, but naive and reckless.

You left out the worst one-- they're privileged.

[JBGUSA]

Risky behavior has its punishment. The lesson should be that assuming that someone is a victim is way too easy.