Hillary is not talking about her former friend.
Maybe a grenade will roll out ?
The Hillary connection is why he will stand up and dummy up. The case against him being so strong, he will be convicted and sentenced to a long term. His only hope is that the Witch will become president and commute his sentence. With all he knows about her, there's a good chance that might happen. OTOH, he might also end up being McDougalized if he's in the Federal can and she gets elected.