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Todays World: Ice House or Hot House? (great info on debunking global warming)
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| 4/18/06
| christopher scotese
Posted on 04/18/2006 8:47:13 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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Best info I have seen showing how today's world is actually at the lower level of historical temperatures. Most of Earth's history has been much hotter.
To: beebuster2000
Dont let Al Gore see the facts...you'll take away his purpose in life.
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posted on
04/18/2006 8:48:46 AM PDT
by
in hoc signo vinces
("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
To: beebuster2000
I sorta bought Crichton's version of it in "State of Fear."
That it's a nonissue concerning the earth's natural rotation on its axis.
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posted on
04/18/2006 8:49:07 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: beebuster2000
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posted on
04/18/2006 8:50:20 AM PDT
by
Tenacious 1
(Not today.)
To: in hoc signo vinces
To: beebuster2000
The site is interesting but irrelevant to global warming. It doesn't matter what the climate was like 200 million years ago, what caused it to change then.
Climatologists look at what's causing this change. Trying to find out why the earth's climate is changing now by looking at the creataceous period, is a bit like investigating 9/11 by looking at who tried to blow up Parliament in 1605.
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posted on
04/18/2006 8:52:45 AM PDT
by
mh8782
To: beebuster2000
The best line I've heard about global warming is:
Isn't global warming the reason that Yosemite is no longer under a sheet of ice??
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posted on
04/18/2006 8:53:54 AM PDT
by
TMD
(Get Planned Parenthood out of our schools!)
To: mh8782
Ahhhh...when talking about planetary climatology...geologic time matters, mh8782.
So, millions of years ago would be appropo.
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posted on
04/18/2006 8:56:05 AM PDT
by
in hoc signo vinces
("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
To: beebuster2000
i'm not a believer in global warming but i can never re-call in my entire life 100+ temperatures in the DFW area in the month of april and having to go through rolling brownouts. this looks like a summer here in texas that might be hotter than the summer of 1980
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posted on
04/18/2006 8:57:04 AM PDT
by
mfnorman
To: in hoc signo vinces
Not if global warming theory is correct. Studying paleoclimate can give us clues into how things may change, but it's not especially relevant to predicting would happen if CO2 levels were to double in such a short space of time (100-200 years)
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posted on
04/18/2006 8:58:42 AM PDT
by
mh8782
To: mfnorman
"Global Warming" is not really an item of faith. It will happen or not irrespective of what you believe or do.
The big issue is actually whether or not human activity contributes to global warming. Some people "believe" our efforts are too small to make a difference. Other people "believe" our efforts are just enough to make a difference.
I note that Mankind learned to use fire just about the start of the current period of glaciation.
The NORMAL situation before that was minimal glaciation and ocean levels much higher than at present. In fact, but for the glaciation at Antarctica, I would have a beach-front property, and would be able to step out onto my porch in the evening and watch the waves roll in on the East Coast.
It's possible I will get this all back if Antarctica melts soon.
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posted on
04/18/2006 9:11:48 AM PDT
by
muawiyah
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To: beebuster2000
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posted on
04/18/2006 9:27:53 AM PDT
by
StopGlobalWhining
(Only 3 1/2-5% of atmospheric CO2 is the result of human activities. 95-96.5% is from natural sources)
To: mh8782
"Not if global warming theory is correct. Studying paleoclimate can give us clues into how things may change, but it's not especially relevant to predicting would happen if CO2 levels were to double in such a short space of time (100-200 years)" The point you're missing is that in the past, the CO2 level has ALSO been higher (in some cases MUCH higher) than it is today. The rate of change means zip. What matters is the concentration in the atmosphere.
To: mfnorman
"i'm not a believer in global warming but i can never re-call in my entire life 100+ temperatures in the DFW area in the month of april..."It's reasoning like this that makes folks susceptible to the pseudo-science of "global warming."
How long a time period is it you've been monitoring DFW weather?
Rounded to the nearest hundred-thousand years?
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posted on
04/18/2006 9:31:36 AM PDT
by
Redbob
To: mfnorman
BTW, while 100 F yesterday was a record high, the record LOW for that date, 32 F, was set in 1999.
Seven years ago.
Were you fearing a new ice age at that time?
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posted on
04/18/2006 9:36:44 AM PDT
by
Redbob
To: mh8782
Searching for man made causes to assign to a normal global phenomnenon is folly.
To: mh8782
Not if global warming theory is correct.
There's just one troubling aspect to the GW theory. If we believe that man-made greenhouse gas emissions are the root cause of GW, how does it explain why the Martian polar ice caps are melting? Who's driving SUV's on Mars?
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posted on
04/18/2006 9:49:24 AM PDT
by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
To: mh8782
i think it shows that the temperature fluctuates continually. that it is either getting warmer or colder. right now history shows that the natural trend is toward warmer, therefore it is folly to assume man should focus massive resources on stopping climate change, and would be better served working on how to adapt to inevitable change. IMHO
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posted on
04/18/2006 9:53:59 AM PDT
by
GretchenM
(What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
To: in hoc signo vinces
What life? Guipetto made him.
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posted on
04/18/2006 9:56:15 AM PDT
by
wizr
(wiz - Sound on prairie, made by buffalo.)
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