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Todays World: Ice House or Hot House? (great info on debunking global warming)
paleomap project ^ | 4/18/06 | christopher scotese

Posted on 04/18/2006 8:47:13 AM PDT by beebuster2000

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Best info I have seen showing how today's world is actually at the lower level of historical temperatures. Most of Earth's history has been much hotter.
1 posted on 04/18/2006 8:47:16 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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Dont let Al Gore see the facts...you'll take away his purpose in life.


2 posted on 04/18/2006 8:48:46 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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I sorta bought Crichton's version of it in "State of Fear."

That it's a nonissue concerning the earth's natural rotation on its axis.


3 posted on 04/18/2006 8:49:07 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: beebuster2000

Read later


4 posted on 04/18/2006 8:50:20 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

SHOW HIM -- SHOW HIM...


5 posted on 04/18/2006 8:50:42 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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The site is interesting but irrelevant to global warming. It doesn't matter what the climate was like 200 million years ago, what caused it to change then.

Climatologists look at what's causing this change. Trying to find out why the earth's climate is changing now by looking at the creataceous period, is a bit like investigating 9/11 by looking at who tried to blow up Parliament in 1605.


6 posted on 04/18/2006 8:52:45 AM PDT by mh8782
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The best line I've heard about global warming is:

Isn't global warming the reason that Yosemite is no longer under a sheet of ice??


7 posted on 04/18/2006 8:53:54 AM PDT by TMD (Get Planned Parenthood out of our schools!)
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Ahhhh...when talking about planetary climatology...geologic time matters, mh8782.

So, millions of years ago would be appropo.


8 posted on 04/18/2006 8:56:05 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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i'm not a believer in global warming but i can never re-call in my entire life 100+ temperatures in the DFW area in the month of april and having to go through rolling brownouts. this looks like a summer here in texas that might be hotter than the summer of 1980


9 posted on 04/18/2006 8:57:04 AM PDT by mfnorman
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Not if global warming theory is correct. Studying paleoclimate can give us clues into how things may change, but it's not especially relevant to predicting would happen if CO2 levels were to double in such a short space of time (100-200 years)


10 posted on 04/18/2006 8:58:42 AM PDT by mh8782
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"Global Warming" is not really an item of faith. It will happen or not irrespective of what you believe or do.

The big issue is actually whether or not human activity contributes to global warming. Some people "believe" our efforts are too small to make a difference. Other people "believe" our efforts are just enough to make a difference.

I note that Mankind learned to use fire just about the start of the current period of glaciation.

The NORMAL situation before that was minimal glaciation and ocean levels much higher than at present. In fact, but for the glaciation at Antarctica, I would have a beach-front property, and would be able to step out onto my porch in the evening and watch the waves roll in on the East Coast.

It's possible I will get this all back if Antarctica melts soon.

11 posted on 04/18/2006 9:11:48 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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See There has historically been much more CO2 in our atmosphere than exists today.

12 posted on 04/18/2006 9:27:53 AM PDT by StopGlobalWhining (Only 3 1/2-5% of atmospheric CO2 is the result of human activities. 95-96.5% is from natural sources)
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"Not if global warming theory is correct. Studying paleoclimate can give us clues into how things may change, but it's not especially relevant to predicting would happen if CO2 levels were to double in such a short space of time (100-200 years)"

The point you're missing is that in the past, the CO2 level has ALSO been higher (in some cases MUCH higher) than it is today. The rate of change means zip. What matters is the concentration in the atmosphere.

13 posted on 04/18/2006 9:29:48 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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"i'm not a believer in global warming but i can never re-call in my entire life 100+ temperatures in the DFW area in the month of april..."

It's reasoning like this that makes folks susceptible to the pseudo-science of "global warming."

How long a time period is it you've been monitoring DFW weather?
Rounded to the nearest hundred-thousand years?

14 posted on 04/18/2006 9:31:36 AM PDT by Redbob
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BTW, while 100 F yesterday was a record high, the record LOW for that date, 32 F, was set in 1999.

Seven years ago.

Were you fearing a new ice age at that time?


15 posted on 04/18/2006 9:36:44 AM PDT by Redbob
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Searching for man made causes to assign to a normal global phenomnenon is folly.


16 posted on 04/18/2006 9:40:19 AM PDT by Pessimist
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Not if global warming theory is correct.

There's just one troubling aspect to the GW theory. If we believe that man-made greenhouse gas emissions are the root cause of GW, how does it explain why the Martian polar ice caps are melting? Who's driving SUV's on Mars?
17 posted on 04/18/2006 9:49:24 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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i think it shows that the temperature fluctuates continually. that it is either getting warmer or colder. right now history shows that the natural trend is toward warmer, therefore it is folly to assume man should focus massive resources on stopping climate change, and would be better served working on how to adapt to inevitable change. IMHO
18 posted on 04/18/2006 9:52:01 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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19 posted on 04/18/2006 9:53:59 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

What life? Guipetto made him.


20 posted on 04/18/2006 9:56:15 AM PDT by wizr (wiz - Sound on prairie, made by buffalo.)
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