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Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case
News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret

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To: ZULU

You mean the same sports played on Indiana reservations throughout the United States. Those must be the upper crust reservations.


601 posted on 04/18/2006 8:16:47 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: All
In fact, here is the statute for First Degree Rape:

First Degree Rape (14-27.2) A person is guilty of rape in the first degree if the person engages in vaginal intercourse:

With a victim who is a child under the age of 13 years and the defendant is at least 12 years old and is at least four years older than the victim; or

With another person by force and against the will of the other person, and:

a. Employs or displays a dangerous or deadly weapon ... ; or

b. Inflicts serious ... injury ...; or

c. The person commits the offense aided or abetted by one or more other persons.

Classification: Class B1 Felony (40 years and/or fine)

And for First Degree Sexual Offense:

First Degree Sexual Offense (14-27.4) A person is guilty of a sexual offense in the first degree if the person engages in sexual act (other than vaginal intercourse):

With a victim who is a child under the age of 13 years and the defendant is at least 12 years old and is at least four years older than the victim; or

With another person by force and against the will of the other person, and:

a. Employs or displays a dangerous or deadly weapon or an article which the other person ... believes to be ... [a] weapon; or

b. Inflicts serious personal injury on the victim or other ...; or

c. The person commits the offense aided ... by one or more ...

Classification: Class B1 Felony (life imprisonment)

I got both statutes from this website: http://www.ncsu.edu/police/Information/NCLaw.html

602 posted on 04/18/2006 8:17:14 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: ladyjane
Indeed....my thoughts too!

Sadly ....rough for North Carolinians all around.

We've got a vacation planned there next month.

603 posted on 04/18/2006 8:17:45 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: ZULU

No kidding. Who knew some spoiled drunks hurling the N word could engender so much righteousness?


604 posted on 04/18/2006 8:18:09 AM PDT by notigar
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To: mariabush
I agree. I emphatically am not saying "These boys hired a stripper, so they deserve to be found guilty of rape." I suspect they did not rape this woman and are being set up and I hope they get off. However, I do think it's sad and shameful they hired or even hung around to watch a stripper. If they were my sons, I'd be ashamed their sexual morals are so loose and their judgment is so poor. I feel sorry for their parents.
605 posted on 04/18/2006 8:18:27 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: deport

I have been amazed at how many talking heads have not done their homework on this case and are just making their usual run-of-the-mill statements.

If somebody was going to "come forward," they would have done so by now.

There isn't anything to "come forward" about.

These attorneys couldn't have been clearer about it: nothing happened.


606 posted on 04/18/2006 8:18:37 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

When is the press conference the defense was suppose to have???

I thought MSNBC said it was to be on at 10am.


607 posted on 04/18/2006 8:18:49 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Howlin

Finnerty is charged with Rape and Kidnapping per Rita Crosby....kidnapping?


608 posted on 04/18/2006 8:19:25 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: snarkytart

I've thought of that as well; the boy's photos were splashed all over the papers and with a prior assault charge, he makes for an easier target.


609 posted on 04/18/2006 8:19:27 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Scotswife
Because I have pointed out the obvious....that the police would know more than the public...then I have been labelled as a liar, a troll, and now I am "emotional".

This is not about "police." It is about an elected official, the DA, who lives in a racially-on-edge city and was confronted with a racially-charged case.

I would invite you to review Colorado vs. Bryant, and see the parallels with the Kobe Bryant-Kate Faber "rape" case. Many of us on here sensed right away that there was no case, and that the defendant was looking for a monetary settlement from an episode of consensual sex.

While the case was settled, and no final resolution was ever announced, the fact that the accuser managed to sandwich Kobe in between two other consensual sexual encounters (who in hell has consensual sex after being raped?), confirmed my suspicions.

If there were no primary coming up in two weeks, this DA would not have pursued this case.

610 posted on 04/18/2006 8:19:30 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Howlin

Some people never heard of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.....or bad things happening to good people.


611 posted on 04/18/2006 8:19:54 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Wallace T.

First of all...I would like to thank you for not referring to me as a troll or liar even though you clearly disagree with me :)

"Were the accusers and the accused of the same race, or if the stripper were white and the athletes were black, this case would not have seen the light of day, given the weakness of the evidence."

Maybe, maybe not. If this were a white woman there wouldn't have been charges? Do we REALLY know that? Or is it possible there is evidence the public is not privy to?

"A lot of blacks bear resentment for past injustices, and want to punish whites for the misdeeds of past centuries. Were the DA to dismiss the case, he could face the wrath of black voters (blacks are about one half of the population) or angry mobs in the streets."

Of course...he should be old enough to remember Tawana Brawley and how such a case can bite one in the ass if not handled correctly.
So...while you "could" be right...you "could" also be wrong, because...as I've been pointing out all along...we don't know all the facts to this case.

"In the pre-civil rights era, white DAs and judges were often extremely harsh towards blacks accused of crimes against whites for fear of voter backlash and the lynch mob. The tables have turned with regard to racial power, but the underlying issue is race, whether with the Scottsboro Boys in the 1930s or the Duke lacrosse players in the 2000s."

I am a Yankee...and I am always suprised when I travel south how race really does still matter there.

I am not saying I disagree with you or that you are wrong.
What I am saying is...I hold out the possiblity the police and DA know something I don't.


612 posted on 04/18/2006 8:19:56 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

It's because you are positing illogical scenarios that you are becoming an annoyance.


613 posted on 04/18/2006 8:20:42 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: ZULU

>>LaCross is a sport for young upperclass brats who think their money and parents' position empowers them to use other people of a lesser sort - black or white - as their needs require.

That's an extraordinarily bigoted statement.

I've know a number of lacrosse players, and your bigotry applied to none of them.

You sure you're not a Dem? That's textbook class warfare rhetoric.


614 posted on 04/18/2006 8:21:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Howlin

"You are here for nothing other reason than to cause disruption on this thread.

We've gotten along just fine without you before. And we sure don't need you now."

All I've done on this thread is point out the obvious...that the public does not know as much as those directly investigating the case.

I asked you a question and all you did was call me a troll.

I'll take that as my answer.

You don't know any more than anyone else here.


615 posted on 04/18/2006 8:21:39 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: panthermom

Ah hah! Exctasy(sp?) was what I've been racking my brain for. The smoking gun inventory list had pills included on it. From what I've heard, that stuff is just as bad as roofies. She could have spent those 27 minutes in the bathroom, because her head was spinning.

There is so many conflicting stories coming out about the evidence, that it's hard to keep track. However, time stamped pics don't lie.

Now my question is that the driver (2nd stripper) had alcohol on her breath, according to either the security guard or the first cop on the scene. Why wasn't she cited, or tested for DUI? The cops out here would have been all over that.


616 posted on 04/18/2006 8:21:40 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: mariabush
I do not know know what happened Well, you've made that abundantly clear.
617 posted on 04/18/2006 8:21:48 AM PDT by schooter (Lynching white boys for black votes)
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To: snarkytart

I imagine after the other boy is arraigned.


618 posted on 04/18/2006 8:22:11 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Scotswife
See my tagline...
619 posted on 04/18/2006 8:22:12 AM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: Paladin2

The DA made it clear he wanted a perp walk.

He refused a usual practice of surrender and bond out. Generally in low flee risks cases like this the indicted shows up to the jail, gets booked, bonds and leaves.

No cuffs, no perp walk.

This was all a blatent stunt.


620 posted on 04/18/2006 8:22:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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