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Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case
News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret

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To: wagglebee

So now they drugged her and she was out of it, but not out of it enough that she can remember who allegedly did this to her. But, of course, one of the kids she does accuse is the kid with the most to lose because of the past arrest. Just more BS.


321 posted on 04/18/2006 6:37:00 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: maggief

Hasn't that father changed his stories several times now?


322 posted on 04/18/2006 6:37:23 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

"Sounds just like a liberal doesn't it? Doesn't want the facts to get in the way of his opinion."

Sure does...God help us.



323 posted on 04/18/2006 6:37:43 AM PDT by milford421
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To: Mad-Margaret

A member of our family is currently under charges for murder.
It has been many years - and still we will not know the full details of the case until it goes to trial.
Even then - we will not know if all the information will be revealed at trial.

There is too much that goes on behind the scenes that is not revealed to the public in cases like these for people to form well-informed opinions.

All of this going back and forth is really a waste of time.
If a grand jury indicts them, then there is enough evidence to go to trial.
We won't know if this story has merit, or not, until the trial.


324 posted on 04/18/2006 6:38:51 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: TommyDale
Well you were accusing someone of putting words in your mouth.
325 posted on 04/18/2006 6:40:07 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Froufrou

"It's like lack of evidence means nothing anymore."

Especially for the lib/socialists. Remember their mantra:
"It's the seriousness of the charge" (that counts -- not facts, evidence, etc.)


326 posted on 04/18/2006 6:40:37 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Peach

Yes, the father has changed his story ... but, he also divulges a few more "facts" the more he speaks. Why is he talking to the media at all? He's not helping his daughter, IMO.


327 posted on 04/18/2006 6:41:03 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Peach
The DA himself has admitted that the DNA tests came back negative.

A negative DNA test does not rule out trace evidence such as spermacide.

328 posted on 04/18/2006 6:42:06 AM PDT by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: tioga

The contents of that email were truly disgusting and I had a hard time accepting that anyone who was competent enough to get admitted to Duke would commit such words to paper, or even think them. I can believe the explanation that it could have been written by a misguided LEO.


329 posted on 04/18/2006 6:43:08 AM PDT by maica (You are being lied to. By elements in the media determined that Iraq must fail. - Ralph Peters)
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To: Scotswife

I'm sorry about your family member. But I don't think this is a waste of time; it's what we do on FR. Speculate and talk and tear apart stories that don't make sense.


330 posted on 04/18/2006 6:43:45 AM PDT by Peach
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To: maggief

I don't think he's helped her either. And once people change their stories like that, everything they say is suspect.


331 posted on 04/18/2006 6:45:09 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Carolinamom

Well said!....a point I was trying to make.


332 posted on 04/18/2006 6:45:52 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: mariabush
Good advice. It's just a pity that the parents of these "dancers" didn't do the same.

However, boorish behavior (despicable as it is) is not illegal.

Those of us who are interested in the published information and the analysis/discussion of it are not pleased w/your implying that we are but indulging in gossip, that we should wait for official findings.

This DA official has indulged in unethical behavior according to the canons for DA. We have every right to 'gossip' about that infringement of the accuseds' rights to be considered innocent before guilt is PROVEN.

333 posted on 04/18/2006 6:46:23 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Peach
... But I don't think this is a waste of time; it's what we do on FR. Speculate and talk and tear apart stories that don't make sense.

EXACTLY ... i.e. Rathergate
334 posted on 04/18/2006 6:46:32 AM PDT by maggief
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To: jude24
When vaginal swabs are taken during a rape kit, the swabs are sent to a lab. The test run on the swabs are for the presence of biological material other than the woman's, a DNA profile is run to see what DNA turns up. Also, the swabs are tested for the presence of latex, spermicides etc.

The results shows no latex, no spermicides, no lubricant.

Now, before anyone asks, the presence of spermicide would not preclude the presence of DNA. The spermicide kills the sperm, it does not destroy the cellular makeup of sperm and semen.
335 posted on 04/18/2006 6:46:36 AM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: maica

Misguided LEO???? NO, he would be a crooked LEO.....this case stinks to high heaven.


336 posted on 04/18/2006 6:46:46 AM PDT by tioga (Speaking out from the god-foresaken frozen tundra of the land of the hildebeast.)
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To: maica

Has anyone here read Charlotte Simmons by Tom Wolfe (a novel about a bright, working class girl from the North Carolina hill country who attends fictional DuPont Univesity and is seduced by the wealth, sex and drinking culture that pervades the campus)? A friend of mine has and told me that the school at issue seemed an awful lot like Duke.


337 posted on 04/18/2006 6:47:03 AM PDT by laconic
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To: maggief
From the TIME link:

The explosive allegations stem from an e-mail message sent in the last few days to several players from the e-mail address of another player, stating he was going to tell the police a crime occurred and implicate key players. The player denies he sent it. This comes after the recent revelations of the now infamous email sent by a Duke player hours after the alleged crime, in which he joked he was going to have more strippers over and "kill the bitches'; defense lawyers do not dispute that message's authenticity, though they insist it has no bearing on their clients' culpability. "The police said (the new e-mail) came from a confidential informant, but we have reason to believe it came from the police, hoping it would make all the players nervous," says one defense lawyer. "That didn't work." A spokesperson at the Durham Police Department would not comment on the allegations of a set-up, and said she would not forward Time's inquiries to any of her superiors over the holiday weekend. No one at the Durham County District Attorney's Office could be reached for comment Friday.

It seems I was confusing two separate emails.

338 posted on 04/18/2006 6:47:05 AM PDT by maica (You are being lied to. By elements in the media determined that Iraq must fail. - Ralph Peters)
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To: Peach

Rita Cosby on MSNBC:

She says the accuser DID identify the boys shortly after the incident at the police station.


339 posted on 04/18/2006 6:47:09 AM PDT by Peach
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To: mystery-ak
Up until today the cloud of suspicion was over ALL OF THEM. The damned the ENTIRE team, IIRC she could not identify the boys until after the DNA came back negative....
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Right!  Very Interesting.........

340 posted on 04/18/2006 6:47:32 AM PDT by united1000 (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last. - Sir Winston Churchill)
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