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Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case
News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret

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To: Peach

That is a good defense opening statement...


301 posted on 04/18/2006 6:28:34 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: maica

Actually, what the police did by sending a fake email was in violation of the law in many states.


302 posted on 04/18/2006 6:28:38 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: mariabush

Wait a minute, the girl is accusing 3 players out of 46!!! Up until today the cloud of suspicion was over ALL OF THEM. The damned the ENTIRE team, I can understand why the dad is upset.


303 posted on 04/18/2006 6:28:46 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: maggief

Thank you, maggie. You've been great providing links.


304 posted on 04/18/2006 6:29:11 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

"The DA admits they have no DNA. None. DNA isn't just semen. It's hair, saliva, etc. There is no evidence of a condom being used. There is no DNA. I don't know how to make it any clearer."


Ok, then I'll defer to you since you seem to know what all the evidence is that the DA has.


305 posted on 04/18/2006 6:29:57 AM PDT by gondramB (You can always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs.)
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To: CaptainK
It is if you do not have anything worthwhile to say!!
306 posted on 04/18/2006 6:30:38 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: mystery-ak

The defense attorneys are going to have a field day with the contradicting statements from Kim, the accuser's father, the promise of DNA by the DA and then zip. Nada. LOL


307 posted on 04/18/2006 6:30:43 AM PDT by Peach
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To: panthermom
Up until today the cloud of suspicion was over ALL OF THEM. The damned the ENTIRE team, IIRC she could not identify the boys until after the DNA came back negative....
308 posted on 04/18/2006 6:31:13 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: gondramB

Where have I claimed to know what evidence the DA has? I'll wait while you show me.

What I've said, in response to posts about DNA, is that the DA himself admits he doesn't have ANY. I don't know what part of that you don't understand.


309 posted on 04/18/2006 6:31:39 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

Are there any photographs showing her being given a drink that may have been drugged?

The timeframe for all of this just doesn't fit.

As some have pointed out, rapes have been prosecuted for centuries without DNA evidence. However, the logic in this argument is totally invalid. The fact that science was unable to test for DNA evidence, didn't mean that it wasn't present. Even with a condom, there is going to be some DNA evidence (pubic hairs, etc.).


310 posted on 04/18/2006 6:31:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: mystery-ak

That's right, mystery. She identified the boys last week. 3 weeks after the incident.


311 posted on 04/18/2006 6:32:27 AM PDT by Peach
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To: TommyDale
See how words get all messed up!!!!!!1
312 posted on 04/18/2006 6:32:37 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: TommyDale
Where did I say the pills were "from the accuser's purse"? I said no such thing, she had her purse when she left the bathroom, leaving behind the other items I mentioned, including the pills. That was told by police officers and attorneys who saw the reports.

I was just asking a question about where you got information that the pills found in the search warrant were definitely hers. I looked up the search warrant and it had pills listed with the other things recovered belonging to her and the occupants of the house, but the pills were not identified as being hers or theirs. If their was a report stating otherwise, I haven't seen it but there is no need to get smart with me because I asked a question.

313 posted on 04/18/2006 6:33:21 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: wagglebee

I haven't heard that any photographs show her being given a drink.

I concur with what you've said about DNA. Also, the mantra that 80% of rape cases in this country are tried without DNA doesn't ring true. Also, many women go home and shower and change clothes and wait several days.

This woman went from the party to a car to the hospital.


314 posted on 04/18/2006 6:34:02 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

What I'd like to know is who is going to restore the reputation of these guys if they are found to be innocent (as it seems they might be due to conflicting stories, lack of evidence and credibility issues concerning the accuser)


315 posted on 04/18/2006 6:34:55 AM PDT by milford421
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To: mariabush

Huh? What words are messed up?


316 posted on 04/18/2006 6:35:00 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: gondramB; Peach

The father admits there's no DNA.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/17/ng.01.html


GRACE: You said that the night the DNA results came out, she cried all night.

TRAVIS: She said she cried all night long. She couldn`t believe it.

GRACE: What is she saying about the fact there was no DNA?

TRAVIS: Well, she felt like they thought that she was lying. And she just couldn`t take it.


317 posted on 04/18/2006 6:35:28 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Carolinamom
I am not saying that all. I am saying that it would be wise to avoid the very appearance of evil.

We always taught our children that if something was going on that might be an embarrassment or could harm their reputation leave immediately.
318 posted on 04/18/2006 6:36:13 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Joe 6-pack
"Is there a broad definition of rape that does not include any skin to skin contact?"

The IRS did it to me yesterday.
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The timing of that comment spot on!   This thread needed that..........  LOL


319 posted on 04/18/2006 6:36:33 AM PDT by united1000 (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last. - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: milford421

I agree; this is a travesty for those families.

Also, the defense attorneys tried to show the DA the photographic evidence and he refused to look at it.

Sounds just like a liberal doesn't it? Doesn't want the facts to get in the way of his opinion.


320 posted on 04/18/2006 6:36:44 AM PDT by Peach
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