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Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case
News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret

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To: OakOak

Most women don't report rape right away. The DNA evidence is washed away. That's why it's a high percentage. But if you look at the percentage of cases where the rape is reported right away and the rape kit is used right away, it goes down to a small percentage. I don't know what that percentage is, but I'll bet it's somewhere in the 10% range.


2,501 posted on 04/19/2006 2:43:22 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

She did not wash right away, therefore it would make sense that some DNA would be on her. Thinking about it, the bathroom would be a place that would have alot hair in it, especially on the floor.


2,502 posted on 04/19/2006 3:43:55 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: bigdcaldavis
Well, strictly speaking, the professor was disciplined by the UNC system not Chapel Hill. As it turned out there was no policy against "fraternization" so they turned around and audited his travel records and fired him based on a $500 discrepancy they found there. Otherwise that would have been taken care of administratively. But the N&O had decided he was a bad person and it was obvious they were going to keep him on the front page forever so he had to go. The person who failed to write a proper policy went unpunished. (I remember this, because at the time I was a prof at NCSU in Raleigh.)

But you're right about CH. I remember the case where some guy went off his meds and shot up Franklin street killing one and wounding four (can't remember exactly). The jury found him innocent due to insanity and then he was able to win a civil suit against his health care provider because they were held responsible to make sure he was taking his meds.

2,503 posted on 04/19/2006 3:49:19 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: panthermom

I wonder if the lawyers refused to let their clients to give hair samples until they had the results on the hair sent to the lab for DNA testing first. But I don't understand why they couldn't just get the pattern from the exemplar and compare it to the DNA patterns they already have on the guys. I don't understand why they needed a hair sample. I would be very suspicious of this if I was representing one of these guys.


2,504 posted on 04/19/2006 3:50:07 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: OakOak

Did they grab her at the ATM?


2,505 posted on 04/19/2006 3:52:50 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: OakOak

The restaurant alibi isn't real powerful.

Do we know yet if the ATM surveillance exists?


2,506 posted on 04/19/2006 3:55:35 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

The photos are believed to be authentic and taken by one of the students at the March 13 party. The time stamps on the photos appear to be accurate. Pictures of a wristwatch magnified for clarity correspond with the time on the photos. The players are sitting on three couches in a semicircle with the dancers in the middle.

11:02 p.m.: The first picture shows at least 10 students hanging out in a living room, apparently waiting for the dancers to arrive. Most of the students appear to be drinking. By the number of people in this photo, it appears only a fraction of the 47 lacrosse team members are there.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=4091

All but one player is under suspicion yet, only a fraction of the team appears to be present. My gosh, we live in a scary time. After it as all said and done, this DA should be disbarred, do jail time, be run out of town, and forced to pay restitution to everyone of the 46 players.


2,507 posted on 04/19/2006 4:17:26 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: investigateworld
Bit off the subject, but that attorney who turned in the crooked judge in Washington, did he ever get his bar card back?

Yes he did. Doug Shafer was suspended for either three or six months in one of the worst bar discipline actions one could ever imagine.

2,508 posted on 04/19/2006 4:32:49 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Howlin; Peach; All

I hear Abrams is showing some of the photos on the Today show this morning. TIVO or screen captures anyone?


2,509 posted on 04/19/2006 4:35:30 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: panthermom

I was talking about the alibis - the surveillance camera at the ATM. I think I mentioned alibi and ATM in my post.

But thanks for the information.


2,510 posted on 04/19/2006 4:40:35 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: maggief

What tine?


2,511 posted on 04/19/2006 4:41:34 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Raycpa

I realize that. All I was saying is it didn't amtter what time zone the clock was set to. Unless the person who was taking the pics re-set the clock in the middle of taking the pics, then the length of time shown on the camera would show that they were there and being photographed for that particular length of time including when they left.


2,512 posted on 04/19/2006 4:43:27 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Ken H
And I bet she wouldn't say that if they didn't have the evidence down cold. This defense team has been impressive so far.

It's easy to look impressive when you have all the facts on your side.

2,513 posted on 04/19/2006 4:47:29 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: mystery-ak; Peach

Good morning! Just trying to catch up and have noticed the questions about Brit Hume's guest's report. I don't know if they've been answered elsewhere, but I happened to catch the interview. The guest was Megan Kendall (sp) who reported that the two students arrested were from the most affluent families with respect to the other players. She speculated that they were singled out from information provided on the website http://www.justiceforher.com. They showed a quick screen shot of the site and it appeared to be a message board. However, visiting the site, I was unable to find the info provided by Kendall.


2,514 posted on 04/19/2006 4:54:55 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: maggief

I don't know how to do that; darn. I hope a document dump starts on her today.


2,515 posted on 04/19/2006 4:55:10 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Quilla

Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:

Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.

Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.

12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.

Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.


2,516 posted on 04/19/2006 4:57:39 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

So we can see Seligman's alibi.


2,517 posted on 04/19/2006 5:01:13 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

At a morning news conference, state NAACP President William Barber said his group would monitor the work of investigators and prosecutors as the case against lacrosse players Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann moves forward.

Barber said the allegations against the pair "suggest a downward spiral from privilege and advantage to decadence and deviance."

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1617542/posts


2,518 posted on 04/19/2006 5:01:31 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
His alibi is a air tight as the DA's case is full of holes. BTW, the info you posted to me above it the total content of a thread, that for now, is in Breakning News.
2,519 posted on 04/19/2006 5:05:38 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: gopheraj

Let me try again. If there is no certain picture of them leaving (even a picture of them outside isn't conclusive they actually left), then there is no way to know if the photo's cover the entire time unless they can be connected to outside time and we could back track from the documented time the police met them. For example, if the time stamps were off by one hour, the final picture may be one hour before they left and that last hour would not be captured by photo's.

Apparently my question is moot. There is both a picture of a watch and pictures of them leaving.


2,520 posted on 04/19/2006 5:07:03 AM PDT by Raycpa
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