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To: george wythe

We don't need national ID cards. This is just another ploy to rob us of freedoms. What we need is a digital ID card for immigrants, legals that is, that can be checked out in a hurry and be hard to forge. When an immigrant applies for a job simply ask for HIS national immigrant ID card and if he/she/it doesn't have one then call in La Migra. If the employer fails to do so and is caught hiring ILLEGALS then said employer should do jail time. It isn't that hard to straighten this mess out, we just need politicians with the balls to do their jobs for a change.


7 posted on 04/17/2006 11:07:49 AM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: calex59
What we need is a digital ID card for immigrants, legals that is,

We already have that. It's called the 'green card.'

that can be checked out in a hurry and be hard to forge.

Verifying the authenticity with a database online is already available, but only to a limited number of employers.

As far as hard to forge, after the advent of the computer age, nothing is hard to forge.

Furthermore, once the database can be accessed online, hackers will have a field day adding thousands of new US citizens everyday.

13 posted on 04/17/2006 11:17:19 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: calex59

I agree with that, but it doesn't solve the problem of the guy who shows up with false papers that show he is a citizen and he isn't. Of course a National ID card in reality wouldn't do that either- they would just get fake ID cards.

I actually thought the system Social Security was setting up for employers to verify SSNs was a good idea- but the ACLU is fighting that big time, so not sure it will get done.

The big issues are false documents and identity theft, not sure how to solve either one in a way that allows those who are not illegal to not be hassled.


18 posted on 04/17/2006 11:23:24 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: calex59
We don't need national ID cards. This is just another ploy to rob us of freedoms.

I'm hearing the whirring of black helicopters in the distance. Anyway, do you object to having to present your social security card whenever you change employers? Because that's what the law already says. Or do you not have a problem as long as the card (the current one) can be forged by a 10 year old?

What we need is a digital ID card for immigrants, legals that is, that can be checked out in a hurry and be hard to forge.

Okay, sounds great to me!

When an immigrant applies for a job simply ask for HIS national immigrant ID card and if he/she/it doesn't have one then call in La Migra.

One question.

How do you know they're immigrants? If citizens aren't required to present I.D.'s like that at the time of hiring, what's to stop an immigrant from claiming to be a citizen, and hence not required to present his "for immigrants only" I.D.?

28 posted on 04/17/2006 11:55:33 AM PDT by XJarhead
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