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To: Politicalities
Suicide implies taking one's own life. If it implied more, then we would not require terms like "murder-suicide."

Homicide implies taking someone else's life. Which is what this is all about. I could argue the evil vermin that indiscrminately slaughter innocents aren't worth enough to count as suicides.

I'm not wrong.

14 posted on 04/17/2006 9:07:04 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop
Suicide implies taking one's own life.

Yes, which is what a suicide bomber does... among other things.

If it implied more, then we would not require terms like "murder-suicide."

Which is why we don't say "a Palestinian committed suicide in front of a Tel Aviv restaurant today," we say "a Palestinian committed a suicide bombing in front of a Tel Aviv restaurant today." The latter term has a well-understood meaning.

Homicide implies taking someone else's life. Which is what this is all about.

It is, once again, insufficiently descriptive. Why include the word "bombing"? Why not just say "a Palestinian killed a bunch of people?" In fact, why include "killed"? Why not just say "there was a Palestinian in Tel Aviv today?" Because none of these terms is descriptive enough. They're all factually accurate, just as it's accurate to say that a Palestinian committed homicide today. But they're too vague. Saying that there was a "homicide bombing" doesn't convey enough information... after all, a Palestinian who leaves a bomb in a restaurant and detonates it remotely also commits homicide. Describing the act of a "suicide bombing" gives more information about the Palestinian's method. And not describing a Palestinian who leaves a bomb in a restaurant and detonates it remotely as a "homicide bomber" but reserving the term solely for those who commit suicide bombings is disengenuous.

I could argue the evil vermin that indiscrminately slaughter innocents aren't worth enough to count as suicides.

Oh, please. So how would you describe it if a Palestinian terrorist, captured before he could carry out his plot, hangs himself in his prison cell?

They're evil vermin, all right. But when they kill themselves they objectively commit suicide. Describing them as sub-human is fine, but it's loaded with opinion and has no place in a news story. It smacks of propaganda.

I'm repulsed by the rampant liberal bias in the media, but when Fox pulls a stunt like this they give ammunition to those who would claim that they themselves are biased in the other direction.

15 posted on 04/17/2006 9:16:19 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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