[Yasotay]

We will just have to disagree on that point, per the Army's website concerning OIF, I understand that through the Fall of 2002 the Army's first option was "Desert Storm II".

Rumsfeld's heart is at least in the right spot ... and his work ethic is clearly second to none .... BUT like the Chairman of the JCS said you can question his judgment and I DO .... it's time that the President starts .... before it's too late.

[kabar]

...through the Fall of 2002 the Army's first option was "Desert Storm II".

The old Army. The Army also wanted to use many more troops in Afghanistan. I was in Saudi Arabia during Desert Shield/Storm and visited Kuwait a few days after the war was over. It took us six months to build up way more forces than we needed. It was beyond overwhelming. Today, we don't have the resources to mount anything similar. Franks was right and Shinseki was wrong. The biggest problem was not having Turkey give us permission for the 4thID to transit the country. If we had had a coordinated attack from the North and the South, we would have nipped the insurgency in the bud.

BUT like the Chairman of the JCS said you can question his judgment and I DO .... it's time that the President starts .... before it's too late.

And what is your alternative? Rumsfedl aside, what would you do differently in the conduct of the war beginning now?