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Poll: Almost as certain as death and taxes is feeling that income tax system is not fair
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | April 16, 2006 | A.P.

Posted on 04/16/2006 1:10:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Dissatisfaction remains high after numerous changes in tax law since the late 1980s.

The Reagan administration led a tax overhaul two decades ago that significantly lowered tax rates and eliminated or reduced several deductions. The first President Bush abandoned his "read my lips, no new taxes pledge" in a 1990 budget deal that raised taxes.

The Clinton administration won passage in 1993 of a deficit-reduction measure that blended tax increases, budget cuts and rebates for the working poor.

And the second Bush administration pushed successfully for tax cuts that lowered the top income tax rate to 35 percent and slashed tax rates for individuals and manufacturers.

More than half in the poll, 58 percent, said middle-income families pay too much income tax. People were almost as likely, 54 percent, to say that about low-income families.

The poll of 1,005 adults was conducted April 11-13 by Ipsos, an international polling firm, and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: taxcode

1 posted on 04/16/2006 1:10:39 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
Rush Limbaugh's got some interesting tax-related info at the bottom of his website about who pays what.
2 posted on 04/16/2006 1:12:58 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Graybeard58

"People were almost as likely, 54 percent, to say that about low-income families."

Low income families do not pay taxes. I can attest to this. For my 8 months or so working before I became a student again this past year, I paid $38 in income tax. Total.

My taxes were paid in my first 3.5 hours on the job while most people have to work through part of May to pay them off. I should have paid more. I would have paid more. I did not do my fair part.

But the government says that I did.


3 posted on 04/16/2006 1:23:27 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: mewzilla

Thanks for the link, this is from it:


Only the Rich Pay Taxes!
The Top 50% pay 96.54% of All Income Taxes
The Top 1% Pay More Than a Third: 34.27%

The rest of the story is that of the people who do not pay income taxes, many of them are income tax receivers.


4 posted on 04/16/2006 1:26:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: CheyennePress

I don't see it that you didn't pay enough but that too many people pay too much.


5 posted on 04/16/2006 1:27:18 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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Well, agreed. I say that relative to what other people paid, I didn't pay enough. I most certainly could have paid more, and to charge other people more for saying that I couldn't pay is ridiculous.

As for government spending in general, yes, we all pay too much.


6 posted on 04/16/2006 1:29:56 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: Graybeard58

American taxpayers doing the job that illegal immigrants don't want to do.


7 posted on 04/16/2006 1:31:04 PM PDT by bannedfromdu
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To: Graybeard58

FairTax BUMP!

It's time to make April 15th just another fine spring day!


8 posted on 04/16/2006 1:32:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: Graybeard58
I don't see it that you didn't pay enough but that too many people pay too much.

My first, full-time job was at a 7-11.  I worked there for about 5 months, bringing home around $800 a month, until I found a better paying job....and I worked at that next place until I found a better paying job...and I worked there until I found a better paying job...

And I kept on doing that until one day I looked down at my pay-stub and realized that I was now paying more in taxes every month, than money I brought home from that first job at 7-11.

And that's when I got pissed.

9 posted on 04/16/2006 1:37:23 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The MSM is a hate group and we are the object of their disdain.)
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"The rest of the story is that of the people who do not pay income taxes, many of them are income tax receivers."

You are very RIGHT! I wonder how long the leftist commies think each one of us can pay taxes for more than our own families. Yes Sgt. Matt Maupin will be in my thoughts and prayers.



10 posted on 04/16/2006 1:38:22 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: mewzilla
Seems to me that EVERY AMERICAN should be happy to pay taxes. All one has to do is look at what every American enjoys: freedom, liberty, safety, etc.- and that alone is worth paying taxes. My gripe is that far too many pay nothing. Think there should be a minimum tax where by everyone has to pay something, even if only $10.
11 posted on 04/16/2006 1:42:50 PM PDT by sinbad17
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To: Graybeard58

During the Clinton Recession, my income plummeted by as much as 75% to approximately $20,000, while our joint income plummeted by more than 50%. Still, in each of the succeeding 4 years, from 01 - 05, the lowest amount we paid in taxes was around $5500.

When the hurricanes struck FL in 04, we didn't qualify for any assistance, probably because we made too much that year (Almost a whopping 50K). We didn't qualify for aid, for any health assistance, tax breaks - NOTHIN'.

So, how much am I supposed to be in favor of illegals and the "working poor" scamming the system and paying NO taxes at all?? Trust me, I have NO sympathy for any of them. You come here, you better plan on being an OWNER, NOT a squatter!! Especially not when I'm paying for it!!!


12 posted on 04/16/2006 1:58:38 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Graybeard58
The present tax system is worse than not fair.

What do you call a situation where you cannot escape your master, where your master claims power over you no matter where you escape to?

Slavery. The present tax system is tax slavery.

A "US Person" (a US Citizen or resident alien) is required to report and pay taxes on all income. If a US Person has never set foot on US soil and has never had contact with any US company, nor has ever even touched a US dollar, he is still required to report and pay income on his earnings, no matter what other taxes he may be required to pay or to whom. It matters not that there are exemptions and exclusions. The issue is liberty, and when it comes to taxes, there is no such thing.

Worse, if a US Person were to say enough and want to give up their citizenship and move to some other country, the US law still requires him to report and pay taxes on any income for another 10 years!. This is enforced by the tax treaties the US has with many other nations.

What is slavery? When you cannot escape your master.

Further, any tax on income destroys personal financial privacy because of audit and compliance efforts by government. In any dealings with the government, the taxpayer is presumed guilty unless he can prove otherwise, and in the process of keeping the required records, he is forced to be a witness against himself in violation of the 5th Amendment.

Reclaim liberty- Abolish the 16th Amendment, and replace the income tax with the Fair Tax. It has its own failings, but destroying liberty is not one of them.
13 posted on 04/16/2006 1:58:42 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Graybeard58
If the government, to which we are compelled to pay taxes, pursues policies that disregard the will of most of the taxpayers (illegal immigration), can that be fair or even legal?
14 posted on 04/16/2006 3:05:24 PM PDT by rimmont
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