[nicmarlo]

I can not fault his individual integrity on a position that he has held pretty well since the days he was Gov of Texas.

I can. It's called opening your eyes, seeing the danger, admitting your ON THE WRONG COURSE...and LEAD THE CHARGE TO STEER CLEAR OF DANGER.

That's what any RESPONSIBLE captain would do to protect his ship and crew.

[catholicfreeper]

The problem is I don't think he is wrong. He wants tough border enforcement, wants to know who is here, and have some sort of sensible guest worker program. I have no problem with that. The current House bill has zero chance of being passed without some sort of Guest worker program and deals with the proposed citizenship questions. IMHO, people would be better off arguing the size of the guest worker program as well as to requirements there would be for eventual Citizenship to those who want it. Thats where the debate should be.

I think what the Prez knows and mnay others know that those are the political realities.