Well that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
God also has given us a RIGHT to murder, enslave, molest, among other things.
That doesn't mean we should excerise that right.
God didn't give us the RIGHT to own weapons... that was a man made creation.
God didn't send down an AK-47 in Moses hands... he sent down commandments saying Thou shall not kill.
Well I believe and constitutional law in this country supports me that the RIGHT to bear arms is not infringed by keeping luntanics like you away from certain weapons and I thank God everyday that there is still some common sense left in this country... and when I say some.. I don't mean alot of it.
Thanks for completely misunderstanding and misrepresenting my post; I don't claim that specific rights are granted by God as some twisted theological doctrine with a scriptural basis as you infer. What I stated is not based on my original thoughts at all, it is based on statments by the Founding Fathers that they regarded certain principles as fundamental rights granted by virtue of being born as men with freewill created by God in His image: the right to own property, the right to defend that property with force if necessary... the latter gives rise to the derived right to keep and bear arms, without which defense of property against another so armed is not possible.
Common sense is indeed uncommon; but I don't thank God for any worldly nonsense... I do thank Him for the new covenant in Christ, His priceless gift of salvation through grace, for the blessings he has given to me and my congregation, and for the blessings He has bestowed upon my service and ministry to Him. If you read my tagline you may notice that I'm His slave... the slave of the Lamb. Unlike you, I do not believe that government should be used as a tool to control men. It should simply enforce the rights of men so they can exercise their God given freewill as long as they are not directly harming others; in this way they may either use that freedom to bring greater glory to God or to hasten their own destruction.
When I was a soldier serving my country carrying these weapons protecting the rule of law you didn't seem to want to keep me away from them
The right to bear arms is not infringed..
you simply have to comply with very simple laws to keep that right.
Lambslave comments:
"-- Sorry, but this is the most nonsensical post I've ever seen. A RIGHT --- can't be taken away by men.
How do you know something is a right?
By definition, if you have to comply with "simple laws" to "keep it" it is not a right, it is a privilege given by the government. --" -76-
Almondjoy rebuts:
Well that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. God also has given us a RIGHT to murder, enslave, molest, among other things.
Joy, anyone who really imagines they have a right to "murder, enslave, molest" etc, is very disturbed. Say it isn't so..
That doesn't mean we should excerise that right.
Murdering , enslaving, or molesting your peers is criminal behavior, Joy. -- Under our Constitution, using due process, laws can be written and enforced that prevent you from behaving that way.
God didn't give us the RIGHT to own weapons... that was a man made creation.
Our inalienable rights to life, liberty, or property are self evident.
Weapons are property; -- and like other forms of property, reasonable regulations can be written concerning their use, but ownership itself cannot be prohibited/infringed.
God didn't send down an AK-47 in Moses hands... he sent down commandments saying Thou shall not kill.
Thou shall not ~murder~. ---- Men are endowed with the ability to make & possess AK-47's.
Well I believe and constitutional law in this country supports me that the RIGHT to bear arms is not infringed by keeping luntanics like you away from certain weapons and I thank God everyday that there is still some common sense left in this country... and when I say some.. I don't mean alot of it.
Dream on that you possess common sense about Constitutional law.
Where are these constitutional 'laws'? -- The ones that support you by saying: "-- the RIGHT to bear arms is not infringed by keeping lunatics like you away from certain weapons --"?
Can you give us a link?
Ummm, its most probable that the commandment states thou shalt not murder, rather than kill.
I don't know the post to which you are replying and I'm not commenting on that, just the translation.
The laws we are discussing on this thread have to do with New York City's laws which prevent EVERYONE from owning any sort of firearm. Why do you support such laws? Because the majority of New Yorkers are minorities?
You've obviously redefined the word right beyond any currently held meaning.
right n.
1. That which is just, morally good, legal, proper, or fitting...
6. Something that is due to a person or governmental body by law, tradition, or nature. Something, especially humane treatment, claimed to be due to animals by moral principle.
7. A just or legal claim or title.
Well that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Yep.