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'Speak softly, don't argue and slow down'
telegraph ^ | 4/16/2006 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 04/15/2006 9:26:23 PM PDT by Family Guy

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I believe that I have a responsibility to behave myself in someone else's country, however, they also have a responsibility to behave to me as a welcome guest. Although I've seen some ugly Americans, I've seen far many more ugly french in their country.

The list of "simple suggestions" in the article could just be summed up as, "don't be a strong American because everyone else is weak and will cry because they feel inferior".

1 posted on 04/15/2006 9:26:27 PM PDT by Family Guy
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"Surveys consistently show that Americans are viewed as arrogant, insensitive, over-materialistic and ignorant..."

???? So, in other words they mistake us for being French?

2 posted on 04/15/2006 9:28:38 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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You mean I shouldn't go to a foreign country and demand that others learn to speak English to accomodate me? Or I shouldn't march in their streets with a U.S. flag and signs in english, demanding 'rights'? I shouldn't expect their hospitals to give me free health care or their schools to educate my children in english for free? Or for them to give me food stamps and welfare?

Looks like other countries aren't nearly as stupid as we are.


3 posted on 04/15/2006 9:31:51 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: CWOJackson

"So, in other words they mistake us for being French?"

Naw!! We're just bein' us.


4 posted on 04/15/2006 9:32:25 PM PDT by wizr (wiz - Sound on prairie, made by buffalo.)
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To: Family Guy

But most important, can I put a towel on the lounge by the pool in the morning so that it's reserved it all day?


5 posted on 04/15/2006 9:34:48 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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"Surveys consistently show that Americans are viewed as arrogant, insensitive, over-materialistic and ignorant..." ???? So, in other words they mistake us for being French?

I think we have prevent John Kerry from traveling abroad anymore.

6 posted on 04/15/2006 9:34:56 PM PDT by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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(Religion is usually considered deeply personal, not a subject for public discussions.)"

Unless you're in an islamic country. Then it will be pounded into your head 5 times a day that you're an infidel who is only 'worth' half of what a muslim is. Unless you're a Jew. Then you're only worth a quarter. Or a Hindu. Then you're only worth a sixteenth.

Of course if you're a Jew in an islamic country you may not make it out alive. Remember Daniel Pearl?

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7 posted on 04/15/2006 9:35:46 PM PDT by Lurker (Anyone who doesn't demand an immediate end to illegal immigration is aiding the slave trade.)
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Sorry, if I have a question about religion, I'll ask it. There are ways to discuss these things and sound curious about them. That's a part of me that I don't hide or go out of my way to be vocal about, and it's not something I'm going to suppress in a foreing country. Just common sense and respect.

As for slowing down, that really depends on where you are. There are places in London where the Brits will mow you down if you're going too slow. Well, they're like that all over the place.

It's just a matter of trying to fit in and being respectful. Common sense.


8 posted on 04/15/2006 9:37:08 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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Perhaps we should start doing our best to fit in in Europe. You know, act like Soccer hooligans or Paris students.


9 posted on 04/15/2006 9:37:47 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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"World Citizens Guide"

Well, alrighty then. State's dispensing with the subterfuge. Thank heaven for small favors, I guess.


10 posted on 04/15/2006 9:37:54 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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The list of "simple suggestions" in the article could just be summed up as, "don't be a strong American because everyone else is weak and will cry because they feel inferior".

I would respectfully disagree with you. Though it's true that there are many Parisians who are rude, they aren't just rude to you--they're rude to everyone, including their own countrymen from different parts of France. Parisians can be so appalling that they're just about out of this discussion anyway.

I've seen my American countrymen behaving in ghastly ways. American girls trying to enter a cathedral wearing a bikini top and shorts with half their butts hanging out, chewing gum and laughing--this is an insult in any country. Americans in Spain yelling that a courteous and erudite Spanish gentleman is a "goddamn spic." An American family in Vienna, contemplating the art of the Schonbrunn palace, saying loudly in the middle of an international tour group, "Jesus Christ, what a bunch of shit, let's get out of here." This is barbaric behavior and makes us all look like fools.

Are there ignorant, crude Englishmen, Germans, Italians? Yes, of course, but they rarely come over here to act like slobs. Anyway, we can't fix their behavior, only ours.

11 posted on 04/15/2006 9:38:30 PM PDT by Fairview
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Your religion is your religion and not necessarily theirs. (Religion is usually considered deeply personal, not a subject for public discussions.)

Overseas maybe. But here in the USA, your religion is considered a criminal offense by liberals, leftists, communists, homosexuals of the socialist democrat party and MSM.

12 posted on 04/15/2006 9:41:31 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Politicians are in it for themselves, to get reelected, to benefit them, not we the people.)
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So I guess "Nice city - I'd nuke that" is out of the question?


13 posted on 04/15/2006 9:45:13 PM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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"The list of "simple suggestions" in the article could just be summed up as, "don't be a strong American because everyone else is weak and will cry because they feel inferior".




For more than 50 years blue state liberals have been the face of Americans on European vacation.

Maybe it is time for Europe to meet normal Americans.


14 posted on 04/15/2006 9:45:41 PM PDT by ansel12
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I've seen my American countrymen behaving in ghastly ways. American girls trying to enter a cathedral wearing a bikini top and shorts with half their butts hanging out, chewing gum and laughing--this is an insult in any country. Americans in Spain yelling that a courteous and erudite Spanish gentleman is a "goddamn spic." An American family in Vienna, contemplating the art of the Schonbrunn palace, saying loudly in the middle of an international tour group, "Jesus Christ, what a bunch of shit, let's get out of here." This is barbaric behavior and makes us all look like fools. Are there ignorant, crude Englishmen, Germans, Italians? Yes, of course, but they rarely come over here to act like slobs. Anyway, we can't fix their behavior, only ours.

Fairview, you are definitely right. I wasn't saying that Americans don't need to behave ourselves. We definitely do need to. I was commenting that I don't believe the list of "simple suggestions" would solve the problem. I think whoever came up with them is way off base. Becoming wimpy and weak as well as rude isn't going to make us any more loved in the world. We should remain strong and at the same time be courteous and respectful.

15 posted on 04/15/2006 9:46:01 PM PDT by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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Perhaps we should start doing our best to fit in in Europe.

By converting to Islam, beheading infidels, molesting children and detonating nail bombs on subways and buses?
16 posted on 04/15/2006 9:48:35 PM PDT by jimbo123
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In France, carry a white flag at all times....and, if you happen to speak loudly in German, don't be surprised if Frenchmen bend over and grab their ankles in front of you.


17 posted on 04/15/2006 9:50:30 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (The enemy within: Demoncrats and DSA.ORG Sedition is a Liberal "family value".)
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I'm not in total disagreement with the article but it's a very one sided view.

A couple of years ago the wife and I spent some very nice time in Malaga, Spain. We are both very quiet, easy going people. Malaga was wonderful and the people very friendly, but there were a few who were very obnoxious when they found out we were American.

I know that some Americans can be very obnoxious, they are here in this country all the time. But I also think that many Europeans have a fixed impression of American's in their minds and an individual's personal conduct means nothing.

The wife and I also used to make several trips a year to Victoria, BC (right next door). Our last one was shortly following 9/11 when one local scratched some nice comments about American's in the paint of our car. One police officer went so far as to suggest that we should understand that some of their citizens were upset with our nation.

Respect is a two way street.

18 posted on 04/15/2006 10:00:56 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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In France you will find that the people in and around the Normandy area are very nice to Americans. I hope this is sincere, however, I'll add that they are very dependent on American tourist dollars.

In much of the rest of France the treatment of American's is far different and has been for many years.

19 posted on 04/15/2006 10:03:39 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Fairview

I loved the French, but I've never been to Paris.

My experiences were in places like Valdeone, Bourg-lastic , and Dieuze.

The French Special Forces were reserved, humble (even shy) guys that loved the Texan openness.

They wanted to cross the room to speak with the American but were hesitant to do so, they loved it when the distance was covered by the "Texan".


A truly warm, caring, person will always be accepted, and if your vacation drags on remember this, " hard physical work is universally respected".


20 posted on 04/15/2006 10:06:31 PM PDT by ansel12
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