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To: CarolinaGuitarman
ID'ers aren't talking about anything.

Yes, they are. They're talking about everything.

ID'ers do posit an omnipotent supernatural being to explain the Origin of Life, i.e. Creation, and the Laws of Nature, which can easily encompass Evolution.

Given that no one knows for sure, including self-absorbed pompous scientists who profess knowledge of that which may never be known, I prefer instead to err on the side that has the humility to submit to something far more powerful than themselves, still believes in miracles, and are humbled and live in awe and wonder of our magnificent universe.

"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein

"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."
- Albert Einstein

"What really interests me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world."
- Albert Einstein

489 posted on 04/16/2006 8:42:44 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Senator Allen on Democrats: "...let's enjoy knocking their soft teeth down their whiny throats.")
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To: Enduring Freedom
ID'ers do posit an omnipotent supernatural being to explain the Origin of Life, i.e. Creation, and the Laws of Nature, which can easily encompass Evolution.

ID does not specifically identify the "designer" as either omnipotent or supernatural. Moreover, the "designer" of ID is not necessarily responsible for the "Laws of Nature". Perhaps you should study what ID actually states.
493 posted on 04/16/2006 9:08:36 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Enduring Freedom
" Yes, they are. They're talking about everything."

And nothing. There is no heuristic value in the ID claim. ID'ers only latch on to those areas scientists have yet unanswered and instead of trying to answer it themselves, they say *God did it!* and run away. That's not an answer. That explains nothing. ID = an explanation about nothing.

" ID'ers do posit an omnipotent supernatural being to explain the Origin of Life, i.e. Creation, and the Laws of Nature, which can easily encompass Evolution."

Anybody can posit anything they wish; it matters not a bit unless you can make a testable claim. ID'ers can't.

"Given that no one knows for sure, including self-absorbed pompous scientists who profess knowledge of that which may never be known, I prefer instead to err on the side that has the humility to submit to something far more powerful than themselves, still believes in miracles, and are humbled and live in awe and wonder of our magnificent universe."

It is the height of arrogance to think that you have a definitive answer *God did it!* with no evidence and no way to test this claim. ID'ers are allergic to humility.

About your quotes: Einstein accepted evolution, was not a theist, and his idea of *God* was mostly the same as the laws of nature. He would not have accepted ID as it is promoted today.
527 posted on 04/17/2006 4:59:15 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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