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To: Coyoteman
I distrust your "three possibilities in terms of natural selection: beneficial, detrimental, or benign."

I remain open to convincing argument otherwise. However, your post did not provide another category. Even assuming a range, as you postulated, a mutation must fit into one of my posited categories for the environmental natural selection pressure to select it for propagation to succeeding generations as a component of evolution.

Please see post 231
232 posted on 04/15/2006 5:13:56 PM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: Lucky Dog
I remain open to convincing argument otherwise. However, your post did not provide another category.

I don't see where a three-part limit is justified.

In just one trait, skin color, I discussed a cline (range of variation) from extremely dark to extremely light, to albino. This reflects a real-world condition.

There are many other traits involved in evolution.

These traits can be expected to vary, co-vary, and counter-vary in all sorts of ways. Some mutations will have both beneficial and detrimental results (sickle-cell anemia being one example).

I simply do not see a need to restrict the possibilities to only beneficial, detrimental, or benign. There will be "little bit beneficial-somewhat detrimental"; "mostly benign here, detrimental 2000 miles farther north"; "mostly benign here, advantageous 2000 miles farther south"; and so on and on and on.

That is why, when the climate changes, the range of variation within a population allows some to adapt better than others--they are already carrying the mutation from hundreds, thousands, or millions of years ago; it was benign but now (look at those darn glaciers!) its beneficial.

That's the way evolution works, and why simplistic mathematical models often come up with screwy results.

236 posted on 04/15/2006 5:29:16 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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