Iran dares US to attack

News.com.au ^ | 4-15-2006 | Stefan Smith

[76834]

Coming at you Iran.
Courtesy of the great friendly folks in Abilene, Texas

[StolarStorm]

Israel has already promised that they will not sneak attack Iran (read it in today's New York Post). Europe WANTS Iran to get the bomb and for them to use it on Israel. Europe (and I bet many in the US) believes that getting rid of Israel will solve many of the world's problems. After Iran nukes Israel, then, NATO will attack Iran, so they can secure themselves. Killing to birds...

That's the most absurd paranoid thing I've ever heard.

[GrandEagle]

The process takes huge amounts of energy to run centrifuges at near speed of sound rotation rates.
HOWEVER, I might point out, It also only takes 1 good friend - like China or Russia, to sell you a couple.

[Wombat101]

Scorched Earth time. Only thing these people understand. If the US decides it's time to take out the trash with regards to Iran, we should not make the mistakes we have made in Iraq. In no particular order, these are: 1. Invading with too small a force, or a force that does not include enough infantry to blanket the country. 2. Beginning the "Hearts and Minds" campaign prior to Iranians being forced into survival mode by eating scorpions and thistles and collecting rainwater to drink. 3. No government or nation building exercises until Iranians are begging for mercy. 4. Not appropriating one red cent for Iranian reconstruction: seize the oil fields and let the revenue from that rebuild the country. The American taxpayer shouldn't foot the bill for Iran's reconstruction the way they have Iraq's. 5. No negotiating with anyone assumed to be "moderate". No negotiation with anyone on anything except unconditional surrender. Absolutely no Al-Sadr's. 6. Keep the Press away from the front. 7. No Fallujahs or Najafs: the Iranians give us a problem in "pacified areas" then thos "pacified areas" get returned to their pristine, natural state (i.e. desert with no sign of civilization). 8. Close the mosques and keep them closed. 9. All captured "insurgents", "militia" or "foreign battlefield combatants" should simply disappear. 10. Strict dusk to dawn kerfew - Any Iranian caught on the streets will be sorry they were.

[Joe Brower]

"it is sure driving up the price of oil and making them a ton of money."

None of which will ultimately matter if we hammer them back to the stone age overnight with all the airborne firepower at our disposal; all of material wealth will be nullified in a matter of hours. To do this, the only feet we will set in Iranian sand are those of our forward recon teams that are in-country to designate targets.

[demkicker]

Which is another reason to take this psycho out now.

[ARCADIA]

...senior cleric Ayatollah Ahmad Janati simply branded the US as a "decaying power" lacking the "stamina" to block Iran's ambitions.

You have to give the man credit for getting this much right. Our conduct of the war has been anemic and far too PC - we have a stand up military hampered by spineless politicians.

[76834]

That would be an overreaction. Persians are a natural ally (unlike Iraqis). We should be figuring out ways to destroy the leadership without alienating the people. Not that I know how to do that, but I know that treating them like they're unconvertable would be a big mistake.

Nope:
Just kill all of them and let God sort em out!

[xarmydog]

That sure is pretty!Wish I had one!

[76834]

That sure is pretty!Wish I had one!

Would be great to have one in your back yard.
Would certainly keep obnoxious neighbors at bay.

As a matter of fact, here in 76834 land we have a couple hundred just like the pix.

Dont Mess With Texas

[ModelBreaker]

Either he is very stupid, or Iran has available to them weapons we are not aware of - yet. The third option is that he underestimates the US and is betting the entire farm that we won't do anything. I doubt seriously if they are that stupid.

Not so stupid. All he has to do is stall until 2008 and hope a dem is elected. He remembers Jimmy fondly. He will remember the next dem president fondly. That president will permit the establishment of a nuclear Islamic Calphate in the middle east. The stakes are that high in 2008.

[Wombat101]

I didn't say they were unconvertible, just that we have forgotten how to fight wars, and the conversion can only start whent he complete bankruptcy of their own systems (political and religious) is made perfectly obvious.

We need to look back to WWII Germany and Japan for answers on how to fight this one. Both the Nazis and Japanese militartists were just as fanatical as the present day fundamentalists Islamics, and only complete and utter defeat allowed either nation to be occupied effectively and eventually returned to the fold of civilized nations.

You can only begin to negotiate with such a fanatical enemy when the costs of conflict have been made crystal clear and when you have completely destroyed his means and will to continue waging war. The problems we have encountered in Iraq are a by-product of a "kindler, gentler" US war machine which puts a premium on precision, attempts to reduce collateral damage by any means necessary, and in which the political often trumps the militarily practical.

As a result, we have had to endure three years of sniping, sneak attacks, and booby traps from Iraqis and "foreign fighters" who do not believe that such actions hurt their cause because the US will not retaliate in the same ways they might have circa 1945 (carpet bombing, bulldozing the enemy inside their bunkers, liberal use of artilery and napalm, annhilation battles, etc).

We could avoid an awful lot of this right at the start by making it perfectly clear that resistance will be met with overwhelming force and that only complete and abject surrender is acceptible. I don't consider that to be "alienating the people" because that is exactly what THEIR leadership is seeking from us (the West): unconditional cultural and religious surrender.

[76834]

Not meaning to be a "tough guy" at all.

Just being realistic.

Some thoughts for you.

• We invented the bomb
• We have a factory that makes them assembly line style, up near Amarillo
• North Dakota, if it was it's own country, would rank as the 4th largest nuclear power on earth

Lots more but I think you get my drift.

[GrandEagle]

I agree that the stakes are high. I doubt if this will go on until 2008. If we wait that long it will be too late (if it is not already).
I'm betting that either they have a very large chemical weapon stockpile, or one of our new "friends" like China or Russia has already sold them a couple of nukes.
Iran is not that big of a dog, It is hard for me to imagine them running this serious of a bluff.
Now, what they have may not be what they THINK they have, but I suspect that something is up.
Just my observations - Cordially,

GE

[The Sons of Liberty]

"You can start a war but it won't be you who finishes it," said General Yahya Rahim Safavi, the head of the Revolutionary Guards

Let's see general, we fought "The Mother of All Battles" and it took us 100 hours.

I'd just like to see us fight a war with the gloves off like WWII - carpet bombing, and nukes if necessary! Then we'd see who finishes it.

[76834]

IMO
Here's the deal.
Like two gunfighters in the street, each waiting for his opponent to make the slightest move.

Then the fecal material collides with the ventilator.

We are already at war with Iran, have been since the Carter days, only difference now is it is going to get really hot, very soon.