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Iran Cleric: US does not have the guts to carry out threats
Iran Focus ^ | 4/14/06 | Iran Focus

Posted on 04/14/2006 8:18:08 PM PDT by freedom44

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To: freedom44

He's right, you know?

Remember the bashing we got over the "Highway of Death" in the Gulf War?

Can you imagine what the world would say when the smoke clears and there are several hundred thousand dead Iranian soldiers lying on the ground?


61 posted on 04/15/2006 12:08:21 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Protect American jobs. Don't hire illegals.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

The USA has not had the guts to stand up and call Islam what it really is, so he does have a point.


62 posted on 04/15/2006 2:20:13 AM PDT by tessalu (t)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

The USA has not had the guts to stand up and call Islam what it really is, so he does have a point.


63 posted on 04/15/2006 2:20:25 AM PDT by tessalu (t)
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To: mkjessup

Oh there will be action all right.

Just not in the way this moron thinks.

Read Ezekiel 38 and 39; the mad mullahs will get a dose of "bottled sunshine" courtesy of the One Who made it in the first place.


64 posted on 04/15/2006 2:42:29 AM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: freedom44
A top Iranian cleric in Tehran publicly acknowledged on Friday that “disciples” of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, took American diplomats working in the United States embassy in Tehran hostage in November 1979.

The first 8 nukes we use on Iran should bear the names of the 8 American heroes killed at Desert One while trying to rescue those very same hostages. That would be a fitting end to the satanic Hitlers-In-Headscarves mafia running Iran.

65 posted on 04/15/2006 2:51:11 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: freedom44

A top Iranian cleric in Tehran publicly acknowledged on Friday that “disciples” of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, took American diplomats working in the United States embassy in Tehran hostage in November 1979.

No, really?

Who would have guessed it?

LOL!

Now, for the UNamusing part of the meal:


Jannati told the congregation that the United States was “decaying” and warned that Tehran was ready to face any aggression. He said the U.S would “regret it” if it launched any attack on the Islamic Republic.

“The Islamic Republic of Iran is not weak”, Jannati said. “Relying on its young and creative forces and considering its military, technological, and scientific strength, Iran will not kneel before you”.

“Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan. This is Iran; it has an Imam and leader. Someone like Ayatollah [Ali] Khamenei is leading the country”, Jannati said.

“The enemies must know that Iran is not comparable with any other country in the world”, the powerful cleric, who is a close confidant of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, said.

“The military might of Iran will determine security in the region. Iran’s neighbours will be covered by this security”.


More confirmation that they have "the bomb".

IMO their vaunted "nuclear program" is a sham. It exists to serve as a cover story, to provide plausible deniability for the nukes they ALREADY possess.

The song and dance (literally!) they orchestrated, culminating with the costumed dancers lifting up vials allegedly filled with uranium was part of the scam.

Never mind the fact that Iran has produced via that small number of centrifuges, over a short timespan, a few mere milligrams of uranium -- and slightly refined at that, nothing near weapons-grade.

It's absurd at face value. Almost like folding a paper airplane and declaring yourself a fighter pilot as you hold it over your head, sneering at the crowd as you warn them not to push you.

But, to his intended audience, the (bogus!) message was clear -- Iran now has "the uranium", and has "joined the nuclear club" (code for "has the bomb").

The implied message -- to his audience -- is that at any time he chooses, he can take "the uranium" from those vials, place it into "the bombs", and then *boom*, no more Israel, no more USA, blah blah blah.

This is all palpably absurd -- yet, it is clearly the message he intended to send.

However, it makes perfect sense when viewed as a cover story. For a variety of reasons -- not the least of which is the political power to be maintained by keeping "the masses" believing that the nukes are of domestic origin -- he has sworn all up and down that Iran has NO nukes.

Yet, the data seems fairly convincing that Iran DOES have nukes. Quite a few of them. But, they're not of domestic production.

So, the charade, the ceremonial Starting of the Centrifuges, making sure the entire world knows about it... the "Ceremonial Dance of the Vial" (the dance of the 12 vials? or, the "twelver" vials? The mind boggles! :)

If/when he launches the nukes he's gotten via third parties, he can refer back to the circus presentation and say, "See? I told you we made the uranium! I told you we joined the Nuclear Club! Alas, I also told you we did not plan to use them for bombs, but, Allah be praised, he has given us the command to eradicate the Zionist Entity, so I have ordered our scientists to take the uranium, and put it into the bombs."

Don't laugh at the apparent juvenile mentality -- that's typical middle-eastern propaganda style. Remember the "documentary" film showing in graphic detail how the Evil Jews would kill Sweet Innocent Arab Boys to use their blood to make Matzoh? It's no less juvenile than the scenario painted above. It's "what plays on the Arab Street" -- and it's exactly the mind of story we can expect Mr. Twelver to foist on 'em.

The quoted text above seems to dovetail with everything else that seems to be falling together. It reeks of the arrogance and bravado of a "punk with a gun."

For more confirmation (and a chill down your spine), read this: Chapter 7, Iran War Warning, part 4.

If you want more, War warning, part 3

The American Spectator is a fairly staid, conservative journal. That they give these reports credibility... is sobering. Very sobering.

66 posted on 04/15/2006 3:47:27 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: mkjessup

So, if the Iranians haven't proved their program has been disbanded before January 2009, we will see massive air strikes to destroy it, nuclear if necessary. Bush will take the heat and leave office a few days later and leave his successor with a clean slate.

In that scenario, by December 2008, Israel will have been totally irradiated by nuclear-tipped Shahab-3 ballistic missiles.

We're outta time my FRiend.
Bingo.

We don't have the luxury of a timetable even remotely approximate to that projection.

We may be looking at weeks, if not days. Frankly, nothing would surprise me -- not even hours.

It is looking increasingly clear that Iran is in the process of putting the final touches on their arsenal.

You will notice that there was recently a distinct change in their strategy. They engaged in a painfully pointless -- and endless series of "buying time" games, via "let's negotiate...no, let's not...wait, changed my mind -- let's negotiate!...wait, no, don't wanna negotiate anymore...oh, wait -- changed my mind again -- let's negotiate...blahblahblah..."

Then, abracadabra (pardon my arabic), no more are they danglng the "maybe we will negotiate" bait. Suddenly it's "Act Two" of the drama -- in which they are intransigent, arrogant, cocky, promising -- not "threatening", but promising to destroy Israel and the west -- and, asserting that they "have joined the Nuclear Club" (code for "have the bomb", while, with great fanfare, showing off vials of alleged refined uranium.

Even if they do have any refined uranium derived from their short run of their small number of centrifutes, it would be mere milligrams, and, not nearly refined to weapons-grade.

Yet, they present that token quantity of mildly refined uranium as if it was a Doomsday Device.

So, I conclude that their "uranium refinement" program is a charade. They were stalling for time, to fit their ex-sov nukes to their missiles, and now, they want to be able to claim that they were of domestic production ("We made the uranium!") when the launch them.

We are right on the cusp of hell. We need to take this situation VERY seriously!

67 posted on 04/15/2006 4:00:17 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: CindyDawg
If it wasn't so serious it would be funny. He sounds like a play ground bully, calling "chicken" What's next? Momma taunts?

No, what's next is that the playground bully pulls a grenade out of his pocket, yanks the pin, and all of a sudden you realize your "playground bully" is a psycho with a grenade.

68 posted on 04/15/2006 4:08:42 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: HitmanLV
I think he is basically right: Dubya doesn't have the political support to do anything major on his arse. He knows it. That can change quickly, but for now, he is right.

Yes, but maybe irrelevant (fingers crossed).

He is the Commander in Chief. He can order an attack. The War Powers Act gives him plenty of time to get the job done before he has to even report to Congress, let alone "get permission."

If EVER there was a time for him to play cowboy, this is it.

There's a time to play the political game, jump through the hoops, make deals, etc.... and there's a time to get the damn job done.

This is definitely a time to get the job done.

69 posted on 04/15/2006 4:14:43 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe

My FRiend, your analysis is flawless. It's a shame you're not working at the State Department where you might have a shot at knocking some sense into their damn heads and getting those people to wake up and smell the reality.


70 posted on 04/15/2006 4:15:17 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
I have been lead to believe that Israel has a defensive or is it offensive plan called the Sword of Gideon and they have said they will use it if necessary.

It is suppose to be a nuclear answer to any attack is this true or is it B.S.?

I haven't heard of a "Sword of Gideon", but it's common knowledge that they have "The Samson Option" which is a deterrent to the entire Muslim world. Basically, if Israel is backed into a corner, it's the end of Islam.

71 posted on 04/15/2006 4:17:50 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: mkjessup

Thanks for the kind words. I've been saying this stuff in several threads, and if there's anything I find more discouraging than the world events I see shaping up, it's the vicious personal attacks I've been receiving from my "conservative brethren."


72 posted on 04/15/2006 4:43:41 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe
"conservative brethren." = Boot licking RNC hacks

It used to be that this was a conservative site but it has turned into a RNC cheer leading section

73 posted on 04/15/2006 6:23:56 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: mkjessup
Some info in this thread you might find interesting (but you'll need to wade through some really insipid anklebiter crap):

The Fateful Hour has Arrived

74 posted on 04/15/2006 6:29:52 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: vrwc0915

Gets discouraging at times...


75 posted on 04/15/2006 6:31:37 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: zarf
Was that before or after Ronnie sold the same Ayatollahs arms in exchange for hostages?

After.

76 posted on 04/15/2006 7:25:16 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: Don Joe

I may have been wrong on the name. But that sounds right.


77 posted on 04/15/2006 12:25:20 PM PDT by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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