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One wonders how true this is of science and engineering majors?
1 posted on 04/14/2006 6:44:37 AM PDT by Panzerlied
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"Despite being bright, articulate and well-educated (she has a bachelor's degree in psychology and a master's in teaching), Bravo couldn't find full-time work after she graduated."

Bravo is not too bright, and a lazy a$$...


2 posted on 04/14/2006 6:46:51 AM PDT by dakine
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Exactly. I graduated just shy of 10 years ago, and even then the University was filled with nonsensical majors and unemployable graduates.

If you think it's bad here, I read a statistic the other day that 80% of Italian men between the ages of 18 and 30 live at home with their mothers. Talk about "mama's boy."


3 posted on 04/14/2006 6:47:21 AM PDT by Disturbin (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, The Crimaliens Have Got to GO)
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or medical...or even education...


4 posted on 04/14/2006 6:47:29 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.


--Calvin Coolidge


5 posted on 04/14/2006 6:49:44 AM PDT by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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Most university degree programs should come with a warning: DANGER THIS DEGREE WILL MAKE YOU UNEMPLOYABLE DANGER


7 posted on 04/14/2006 6:51:00 AM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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And these are the folks that will call Active Duty Enlisted unintelligent, stupid, etc...because we don't have a degree...


8 posted on 04/14/2006 6:52:23 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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The article talks about how hard it is for these new grads to get by and get out in the world on $20,000-$30,000 or so. Too bad the article didn't publish the new grads' monthly expenditures. I'm willing to bet most have a high car payment, beer/alcohol expenses, cell phone, etc. Cut those out for a little while and it is amazing how fast one can pay off debt! I myself paid off $7,000 in post-college credit card debt in about 15 months while earning $28,000/year.


9 posted on 04/14/2006 6:52:53 AM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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Keep reading:

"You think, six months ago I had a great on-campus job and social life. Now, I'm living at home, I have two friends and no academic stimulation for the first time in 20 years -- sitting in the basement, surfing the Internet, looking for work," Relyea says. "It's like, wow, I was just studying the cultural history of aborigines and now I'm looking at jobs where the main duties are answering the phone and typing.' "

"How are you supposed to make that shift? It's really something nobody prepares you for."

Boo hoo hoo, cry me a river. Not everyone grows up to be an astronaut.

10 posted on 04/14/2006 6:54:46 AM PDT by nina0113
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The Colleges have continuted to jack up tuitions simply becauses they can. They continue to feed at the trough of the Federal Student Loan program. Today's young adults are not only armed with irrelevant degrees they are burdened with hefty loan payments in a world squeezed by globalization and the burden of paying for illegals. And just wait until they get the social security bills to pay for their baby boomer parents who all thought federal subsidized student loans were a wonderful idea.


11 posted on 04/14/2006 6:55:30 AM PDT by rhombus
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It was only in the last generation that one was expected to move out of their family home in their 20s. Where I'm from it's not unusual to have three generations living in the same house. My father lived in his father's house with his wife and us three children until he was 40. We didn't move out until my third sister was born. Does that make him a object of ridicule? Would it make me one if I did the same? My family owns a business that the family as a whole operates, and it just makes more sense to keep the family together then to spread us to the winds.
12 posted on 04/14/2006 6:56:34 AM PDT by Namyak (Oderint dum metuant)
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I doubt that engineering and science majors have this prob at all. I see liberal arts degrees all over the place for one reason. The courses are simple, don't require math and leave you plenty of time for partying. The kids coast, graduate... then find out their degree isn't worth much.

Where are the parents or counselors in directing these young adults into careers that would sustain them? MIA, no doubt.

The girl subject in this article should have gone from HS into massage therapy....saving herself and her parents a bundle of $$ and wasted time.

14 posted on 04/14/2006 6:57:57 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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Entitled folks afraid to struggle.

You start out with nothing. Live in a crummy apartment, eat mac & cheese and hot dogs, and work hard. You perform, earn, and gradually do better and then better still. You learn to appreciate what you have and what you've earned - you're happy.

(and you don't turn to credit to falsely 'improve' your conditions, that only lengthens the lean times)
16 posted on 04/14/2006 6:59:02 AM PDT by Sax
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I'm surprised more people aren't seriously considering going into the construction trade. Those jobs pay GOOD money--US$40 per hour or more!--and the demand is always there, even in the cyclical housing market cycle. Remember, a lot of older houses need a lot of reconstruction work to meet current building codes, and believe me, that type of work is always in need all over the USA.
21 posted on 04/14/2006 7:02:08 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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It's the fault of the parents. Not preparing their children to get out on their own is the failure. Then, failing to overcome the fear of, "What if they fail miserably?", they failure to kick their unchallenged butts out the door.

My brother was a failure to launch...so of. He was more like a successful launch that failed to leave port after getting repairs. He came back from a tour in Korea, during the VNW, a pot head. Instead of forcing him to make decisions to sink or sail, my mom brought him back, and he never left her home until she was put into a nursing home after his free-basing-gone-bad burnt doen her house.


22 posted on 04/14/2006 7:02:17 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Logic is stopping at every red light on it’s way to liberalism")
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Most of the people I went to college with did not end up working in fields related to their majors (myself included - my major was architecture). Most of them found out that pay was better in service jobs if you own your own business. About all of my family are college grads and post grads., but when my kids get old enough I'm not going to push them into college if they don't want to. I'm going to try to encourage their entrepreneuring instincts.


24 posted on 04/14/2006 7:04:24 AM PDT by loreldan (Without coffee I am nothing.)
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Instead, she racked up another $70,000 in student debt and discovered she doesn't have the stomach to be an elementary-school teacher after all.

Bravo has decided to focus on her ballroom dancing skills -- she hopes to compete in a national competition this fall -- and become a professional dance teacher. "They can make $70 or $80 an hour," she says.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, a ballroom dancer?

26 posted on 04/14/2006 7:05:24 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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This article makes no sense. I graduated 15 years ago in D.C. and I was making $20,000 at my first job. However, I worked through college so I actually had real life skills when I graduated. To pay rent in a very expensive area, I had three roommates that I shared a house with. One bathroom for 4 girls , my room was the size of a broom closet and I rode the bus to work but I avoided the boomerang effect. These students could make it if they wanted to but they just don't want to sacrifice anything.


30 posted on 04/14/2006 7:07:56 AM PDT by New Girl
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Unless you are lucky (connections, etc), one will need to work entry level jobs for maybe 5 years. But there are some routes that can lessen this.

The best thing a young person can do? Get an education that includes several co-op opportunities. Engineering, science, applied math, health sciences, medical, dental, and business programs often offer these. You get hired on a short term basis (4-8 months), at relatively low pay, between terms of classes, get a foothold in the working world of your chosen field, and inject some reality into your degree.

As for the people who are wasting their time on fluffy lightweight majors...bwahahaha, you were most definitely warned.

41 posted on 04/14/2006 7:16:52 AM PDT by M203M4
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46 posted on 04/14/2006 7:20:33 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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a dicey job market

What a load of bravo sierra. This is one of the best job markets ever.

50 posted on 04/14/2006 7:30:40 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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