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Why so many grads 'fail to launch'
MSN Money ^ | Monday, April 03, 2006 | MP Dunleavey

Posted on 04/14/2006 6:44:37 AM PDT by Panzerlied

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To: Panzerlied
I'm surprised more people aren't seriously considering going into the construction trade. Those jobs pay GOOD money--US$40 per hour or more!--and the demand is always there, even in the cyclical housing market cycle. Remember, a lot of older houses need a lot of reconstruction work to meet current building codes, and believe me, that type of work is always in need all over the USA.
21 posted on 04/14/2006 7:02:08 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Panzerlied

It's the fault of the parents. Not preparing their children to get out on their own is the failure. Then, failing to overcome the fear of, "What if they fail miserably?", they failure to kick their unchallenged butts out the door.

My brother was a failure to launch...so of. He was more like a successful launch that failed to leave port after getting repairs. He came back from a tour in Korea, during the VNW, a pot head. Instead of forcing him to make decisions to sink or sail, my mom brought him back, and he never left her home until she was put into a nursing home after his free-basing-gone-bad burnt doen her house.


22 posted on 04/14/2006 7:02:17 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Logic is stopping at every red light on it’s way to liberalism")
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To: Namyak

You are absolutely right. Victorian young marrieds lived with their parents. This notion that you are supposed to be economically independent in your 20's only made sense if you got a good union factory job after high school.

If you are in college and saddled with debt until your 30's failure to launch is just plain the norm.


23 posted on 04/14/2006 7:03:06 AM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Panzerlied

Most of the people I went to college with did not end up working in fields related to their majors (myself included - my major was architecture). Most of them found out that pay was better in service jobs if you own your own business. About all of my family are college grads and post grads., but when my kids get old enough I'm not going to push them into college if they don't want to. I'm going to try to encourage their entrepreneuring instincts.


24 posted on 04/14/2006 7:04:24 AM PDT by loreldan (Without coffee I am nothing.)
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To: Sooth2222
But the myth that a non-technical degree from a second-tier or lower liberal arts college will do anything for you in the 21st century is one of the biggest scams since Social Security.

Unfortunately what it says is that you at least finished something you started.

25 posted on 04/14/2006 7:04:41 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Panzerlied
Instead, she racked up another $70,000 in student debt and discovered she doesn't have the stomach to be an elementary-school teacher after all.

Bravo has decided to focus on her ballroom dancing skills -- she hopes to compete in a national competition this fall -- and become a professional dance teacher. "They can make $70 or $80 an hour," she says.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, a ballroom dancer?

26 posted on 04/14/2006 7:05:24 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: thoughtomator

>>Most university degree programs should come with a warning: DANGER THIS DEGREE WILL MAKE YOU UNEMPLOYABLE DANGER

There are a number of degrees out there today, that would absolutely disqualify you from being hired, in my book, without significant indication that the applicant hadn't avoided the extreme Leftist mindset that tends to come along with those degrees.

I'd rather hire a two-year business major than a four-year gender studies grad. Heck, a quality high school grad.


27 posted on 04/14/2006 7:05:47 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: RayChuang88

A lot of those trades are getting covered up with illegals, in many parts of the country.

You're probably right, though, about skilled trades with high barriers to entry, like plumbing and electrical.


28 posted on 04/14/2006 7:07:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Just another Joe
a ballroom dancer?

Hey whatever pays the bills. If the field does take off, watch for every college to start a bachelor's degree in bsallroom dancing so they can collect federal student laon money.

29 posted on 04/14/2006 7:07:30 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Panzerlied

This article makes no sense. I graduated 15 years ago in D.C. and I was making $20,000 at my first job. However, I worked through college so I actually had real life skills when I graduated. To pay rent in a very expensive area, I had three roommates that I shared a house with. One bathroom for 4 girls , my room was the size of a broom closet and I rode the bus to work but I avoided the boomerang effect. These students could make it if they wanted to but they just don't want to sacrifice anything.


30 posted on 04/14/2006 7:07:56 AM PDT by New Girl
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To: RayChuang88
I'm surprised more people aren't seriously considering going into the construction trade.

That would require an understanding of basic arithmetic, which is not a requirement for a liberal arts degree. That our High Schoolers find it hard to compete with the Bulgarians in math and science should be more than a little scary.

31 posted on 04/14/2006 7:08:43 AM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: xrp

I council all of our new hires, "If I had only invested the beer money..."


32 posted on 04/14/2006 7:08:56 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: Redleg1963

"The world needs ditch diggers too!"
33 posted on 04/14/2006 7:09:06 AM PDT by posterchild (Living a capitalist dream in a socialist 'paradise.')
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To: Redleg1963

That's the picture I was thinking of!


34 posted on 04/14/2006 7:09:28 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: quikdrw
What kind of job would studying history of aborgines prepare you for?

Something really cool, where you'd run around in a bush jacket and the Discovery Channel would make a movie starring YOU!

35 posted on 04/14/2006 7:11:11 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: FreedomPoster

"I'd rather hire a two-year business major than a four-year gender studies grad"

True ... the institutes of higher learning have to keep renaming the programs as folks catch on to how useless they are in the real world. "Basket Weaving" and "Liberal Arts" have been replaced with "Non-Violent Conflict Resolution" and "Creative Thinking."


36 posted on 04/14/2006 7:11:30 AM PDT by Disturbin (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, The Crimaliens Have Got to GO)
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To: darkwing104

Common sense can not be degreed...


37 posted on 04/14/2006 7:14:12 AM PDT by dakine
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To: nina0113

And how many people do that for the Discovery channel? Someone should have told her that studying the history of aborgines probably will NOT help you to find a job.

Mike Rowe is all over the Discovery channel. And look at the disgusting things they make him do on "Dirty Jobs". Personally, I would love to have the Mythbusters job, but I don't think they are ready to give it up.


38 posted on 04/14/2006 7:16:06 AM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: quikdrw
"It's like, wow, I was just studying the cultural history of aborigines and now I'm looking at jobs where the main duties are answering the phone and typing.' "

What kind of job would studying history of aborgines prepare you for?

Answering the phone, typing, or teaching college undergraduates the cultural history of aborigines. Nobody bother to tell him that, though.

39 posted on 04/14/2006 7:16:09 AM PDT by Bob
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To: nina0113
LOL...my favorite movie quote:
Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too (Judge Smails)
40 posted on 04/14/2006 7:16:19 AM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Computers in the future may have only 1000 vacuum tubes..." - Popular Mechanics, March 1949)
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