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To: Leatherneck_MT
There needs to be someone in charge of the Defense Department who is less interested in not looking bad and more interested in getting the job done.

I don't think Rummy has that in him.

You don't know the man at all then - Nor is your radar of perception all that accurate ...with all due respect.

Get the job done?? - We have fought and continue to fight the most successful unconventional war in the history of man! - What we have accomplished in the last 4 years is amazing by all intellectually honest objectionable standards.

No, It is the Old Big Green that had outlived its usefulness and SecDef Rumsfeld has helped in making the needed changes. Of course this has upset some and hurt some feelings.....but men don't run to the MSM (who they know without question at every turn is looking to run down our war efforts. They know this, yet they turn to these people to get their axe (message) out. That speaks volumes about these people.).

151 posted on 04/13/2006 8:04:34 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
What we have accomplished in the last 4 years is amazing by all intellectually honest objectionable standards.

And what intellectually honest standards are those??? Iraq is very close to falling into all out civil war. The Iranians have a strong influence over the Shiites and there is a very good possibility that Iran will be more influential in Iraq than the US. So much for building a pro-Western Democracy!

Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Wolfowitz have made obscene miscalculations about Iraq. There predictions have been dead-wrong and, forgive me, everything now sounds like spin rather than getting the job done.

It is still too early to say whether the mission in Iraq will succeed or fail but how can you think that it is currently successful?

221 posted on 04/13/2006 9:45:08 PM PDT by al_again
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To: DevSix

So tell me

What is your expertise that I should bow to your superior knowledge?

Are you a historian?

Are you a Military Specialist?

Are you an Analyst for the Pentagon or the CIA?

Give me your credentials that makes your argument anymore valid than mine.

I have no great love for the perfumed princes in the penthouse/pentagon. But Rummy isn't looking at the big picture and neither is GW. If they were we would be beefing this Military up, not slimming it down.

Threats?

Iran, North Korea, China (with a 200 million man army) and if you think for one moment that Russia is our ally then you really need to go back and take a close look at what's going on there.

Let's talk about our neighbors to the south. Communists, all of them. Not our friends, being supplied by communist China, selling them arms and equipment. Why is that?

China is in essence taking over (if they haven't done so already) control of the Panama canal.

Think the EU are our allies? Better look more closely at the way that organization is setup. We are headed on an economical collision course with them that could very well turn into a shooting war.

No, he's not getting the job done because the job is far larger than this narrowly focused war on Terror. We have a border that leaks like a sieve. It needs to be shutdown NOW. That's PART of the war on Terror, defending the American Population from more attacks.

The old big green has not outlived it's usefullness, it's needed more today than ever. It does need to be retrained and refitted for a more varied form of mission, but it's not outmoded.

Yes our Military has done a magnificent job in the last 4 years and it continues to do so. But it needs a bit of fat to take it through the tough times ahead.

We've only seen the beginning.


283 posted on 04/14/2006 5:54:11 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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