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Another general joins ranks opposing Rumsfeld (number 6)
CNN ^ | April 13 2006

Posted on 04/13/2006 3:55:30 PM PDT by jmc1969

The commander who led the elite 82nd Airborne Division during its mission in Iraq has joined the chorus of retired generals calling on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to leave the Pentagon.

"I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him," retired Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack told CNN's Barbara Starr on Thursday.

He also suggested other changes among the top brass at the Pentagon.

"I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly, and when the time comes, they need to call it like it is,".

"Specifically, I feel he has micromanaged the generals who are leading our forces there," Swannack said in the telephone interview.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charlesswannack; dod; rumsfeld; whyretireifhewasgod
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1 posted on 04/13/2006 3:55:31 PM PDT by jmc1969
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"I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly..."

I could go along with this.

2 posted on 04/13/2006 3:57:28 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: Kenny Bunkport

You and me both


3 posted on 04/13/2006 3:58:17 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: jmc1969
LOL, the Dems said last month they were going to use the military to undermine the Pres and the war.

Crass, but typical.
4 posted on 04/13/2006 3:59:11 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: jmc1969

You mean some members of the military are Demorats? And they place party above country? I never heard of such a thing!


5 posted on 04/13/2006 4:01:57 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: jmc1969
"I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly, and when the time comes, they need to call it like it is,".

SecDef Rumsfeld allows completely for this and Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack knows it -

This is a completely below the belt shot at the SecDef ...and speaks volumes about Swannack -

Hey 82nd, are those bowling alleys done yet in Stan?? - Great, you'll come along now (thanks).

SecDef Rumsfeld is doing one hell of a job and hard charging in the process. When one does this, he is going to ruffle some feathers and cause some people to get their feelings hurt.

It is obvious there are a number of spiteful ex-Gen's who fall into the above category. Nothing more, nothing less.

6 posted on 04/13/2006 4:02:27 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: jmc1969
"I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly, and when the time comes, they need to call it like it is," he told CNN.

RUTHLESSSLY...I just found my pick for new Secretary of Defense.
7 posted on 04/13/2006 4:02:55 PM PDT by ryan71
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To: roses of sharon
Maybe you should pay attention to what they are saying rather than blindly following the administration just because they have an R next to their name.
8 posted on 04/13/2006 4:03:09 PM PDT by al_again
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To: jmc1969

Maybe, just maybe, some of them have a point. I've heard complaints from ex-military friends of mine about how Rumsfeld has weakened the military with his decisions. These are hardcore gung ho conservatives saying this too.


9 posted on 04/13/2006 4:03:23 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: jmc1969
Well, Rummy sure has shook up the brass real good.
10 posted on 04/13/2006 4:03:36 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Sir Gawain
*Rumsfeld has weakened the military with his decisions.*

Any specifics?
11 posted on 04/13/2006 4:05:39 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: jmc1969

You gotta remember that Rumsfeld is 'old warfare' - bomb, invade and occupy. He has a new wrinkle - do it on the cheap with equipment and manpower. WW II there were enough troops to completely conquer, occupy and control [thank you draftees].


12 posted on 04/13/2006 4:06:05 PM PDT by ex-snook (John 17 - So that they may be one just as we are one.)
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To: DevSix
Someone is running these guys out there....applying pressure until the White House is forced to speak on the matter....this is not some willy-nilly operation...there is organization behind this.... look at who has spoken so far...all come from the ranks of Generals who lead troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I wonder who has spoken with these retired Generals.

13 posted on 04/13/2006 4:07:44 PM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Sir Gawain

The problem the administation is going to have is there probably are enough generals that hate Rumsfeld to have a new one come out every day until the November election. I don't think all of them are going to speak out, but alot will and more then enough to put incredible political pain on the White House.


14 posted on 04/13/2006 4:09:36 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

What is going on here?


15 posted on 04/13/2006 4:10:20 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: TheDon
You mean some members of the military are Demorats? And they place party above country? I never heard of such a thing!

Your post was SO good, I had to re-post it. Yah...IMAGINE!

It's typically the ones that make the most noise about change, that seem to not be able to deal with change, even if the change...is for the better.

16 posted on 04/13/2006 4:11:14 PM PDT by NordP (I've seen enough "24" to know there are many things a President cannot talk about, yet must do.)
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To: MindBender26

Itchy old Generals


17 posted on 04/13/2006 4:11:35 PM PDT by woofie (Poll your own damn self)
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To: jmc1969

Almost no matter what the facts are, Rumsfeld should stay in office. The President should not allow his staff members to be unseated under fire. It happened with Card, and, so far, that one hasn't seemed to hurt too much, but I cringed at the time. My thought is, even if you have a poorly performing staff member (which I do not say about either Card or Rumsfeld), when you are under unrelenting assault from your political enemies, you do not respond to their criticisms about your staff by firing them. In the worst case, you can leave the target in office and transfer his functions to others. Seeming to give in to the critics only strengthens their bloodlust for more.


18 posted on 04/13/2006 4:11:52 PM PDT by Stirner
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To: DevSix
SecDef Rumsfeld is doing one hell of a job and hard charging in the process. When one does this, he is going to ruffle some feathers and cause some people to get their feelings hurt.

Commnader: "Are you new to the infantry, Maj.?"

Maj: "Yes, sir. Come over from supply."

Cmdr: "Were you good at that?"

Maj: "Yes, sir!"

Cmdr: "Well, then, stick to it. Because you're a walking clusterf**k as an infantry officer! This is a Marine amphibious unit, Major! MY MEN ARE HARD CHARGERS! (SecDef Donald Rumsfeld) took a group of young fire-pi$$ers, exercised some personal initiative, and KICKED ASS!"

/"Heartbreak Ridge"

19 posted on 04/13/2006 4:12:19 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (FreeRepublic and Rush Limbaugh: kevlar protection from the Drive-By Media.)
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To: demlosers
Do you really expect there to be ? (/smirk)

GREAT question!

20 posted on 04/13/2006 4:12:41 PM PDT by NordP (I've seen enough "24" to know there are many things a President cannot talk about, yet must do.)
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