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They may be 100% wrong, but they have earned the right once they're out to speak their mind. They have credibility that none of us have earned, since none of us are retired generals. They were in a better position than we to know if Rumsfeld bungled the Iraq occupation and reconstruction.

Why would you even include "they may be 100% wrong" if they have any modicum of credibility? They've earned much respect for what they DID -- past tense.
They demean themselves when they don't preface ALL their comments with "I'm a civilian now, privvy to no intel and know, basically squat, but when I was in charge..."

Anything beyond that is pure speculation and should be treated as such. Every war is different, as THEY will tell you. The middle east is an complicated as any war has ever been. NOTHING simple about it.

I CRINGE when I listen to them. I say, "Please, just go away and shut up, sir." Wesley was PARTICULARLY embarrassing. It's like hearing Muhammad Ali or George Foreman talking about fighting again. PLEASE, just be quiet and go away. Write a friggin' book and spout away, but get off the air with your airs of past glory. They sound just like GAS BAGS. Clinton and Carter come to mind.....just write a book and close mouth. GeezLaWeez.

Why would you even include "they may be 100% wrong" if they have any modicum of credibility?

Because neither you nor I know enough to prove or disprove their allegations. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

"I'm a civilian now, privvy to no intel and know, basically squat, but when I was in charge..."

They were in during the initial stages of the war. They'd be in a position to know if Rumsfeld screwed up.

They've earned the right to tell us their opinion - and they deserve more than "shut up." They know what they are talking about.

Hilarious how trolls want retired military dissing our leaders and the war, abetting the cultists with boots on the ground?

Why not go see the Pres or his people, if they are sincerely concerned?

Or why not write a book trashing Rumseld once the conflict is over?

I, for one, cannot WAIT for Rumsfeld to write his book!