Then we shouldn't be there fighting. We weren't fighting an insurgency war in Japan and Germany years after the victory. Whatever sophistry we can sit here and spin, the country, who were 90% behind the POTUS several years ago, now have serious doubts... because they didn't think we'd be in this position. Blaming this all on the MSM isn't going to be a winning strategy in November. The president needs to address this head on. Scotty McClellan isn't going to do it..
A very small minority of the population of 25 million comprised of AQ, Baathists, criminals, and others. Estimates run from 10 to 30 thousand. They are incapable of carrying out any significant military unit activities, hold no territory, and have no viable political alternative or agenda save for anarchy.
If they are that small, we should leave. We've been training Iraqis (who certainly know how to fight - look at the casualties they inflicted on Iran in the 80s) for two years. They speak the language. They are of the culture. They need to take it over. And we need to get the foreign contractors out and have the Iraqis themselves rebuild their country.
If this nation cannot stomach this low level of casualties in pursuit of our national interests and to destroy the organization that attacked us killing over 3000 mostly Americans on our soil, and who have declared war on us, then we don't deserve to be the world's lone superpower.
We have fought several small countries in the last two decades, including a country armed to the teeth by Russia, and have had nowhere near these kinds of casualties. This isn't Russia, China or even Serbia. The person responsible for the 3000 deaths here is still on the loose reportedly somewhere in Pakistan. Many people have become understandably confused that "dead or alive" determination from the admin. appears to have fizzled.
Pure BS. The military voted overwhelmingly for Bush in 2000 and 2004.
Even stranger that there is an unprecendented number speaking out now, even from those recently commanding troops in Iraq. I respect the opinion of people who do the fighting, and I know many. The military does not have a bias against Repub presidents.
Buck up man. Get a hold of yourself. Now is not the time to go wobbly.
My going wobbly is of no import. The POTUS needs to stand up and reassure the public - and not through poor, wimpy Scott McClellan!
We were fighting the "werewolves" in Germany after the war. Japan was a different matter given their leadership and obedience of its people. Regardless, we are in Iraq because AQ has declared it the frontlines in their war against us. Iraq is part of the WOT. Who is blaming all of this on the MSM? The Dems have politicized the war. They seem to think that they will benefit by our defeat there. The steady drumbeat of bad news, i.e., the bombings, casualties. etc., without balancing it with the other side presents a distorted picture. The same thing happened in Vietnam. The MSM and Dems are using the same template.
Scotty McClellan isn't going to do it.
You could have Cicero or Clarence Darrow up there and you wouldn't convince the MSM to change their reporting. The WH press corps is overwhelming anti-Bush. Remember their frenzied coverage of the President's national guard records (including Rathergate) compared to their attempts to discredit the SBVFT. You are very naive to believe that a WH press spokesman is going to change the MSM coverage.
If they are that small, we should leave. We've been training Iraqis (who certainly know how to fight - look at the casualties they inflicted on Iran in the 80s) for two years. They speak the language. They are of the culture. They need to take it over. And we need to get the foreign contractors out and have the Iraqis themselves rebuild their country.
We will stand down as the Iraqis stand up. They are taking over. Iraqi military and police have suffered more casualties than we have. What the hell are you talking about? You are spewing the same nonsense as the Dems. It has only been three years. What's the rush? Why don't you have any patience? Our troops understand this and want us to stay the course.
We have fought several small countries in the last two decades, including a country armed to the teeth by Russia, and have had nowhere near these kinds of casualties.
Are you referring to Bosnia and Kosovo? We fought that war at 15,000 feet. However, we are still there. Why aren't you calling for their immediate removal? The casualties in Iraq are light compared to any real historical measure.
This isn't Russia, China or even Serbia.
If it were China or Russia, our casualty rate would be much higher, especially if we tried to invade and occupy them. We didn't invade Serbia (Kosovo aside) with ground troops nor did we change their government and occupy their country.
The person responsible for the 3000 deaths here is still on the loose reportedly somewhere in Pakistan. Many people have become understandably confused that "dead or alive" determination from the admin. appears to have fizzled.
We are still in Afghanistan pursuing bin laden. We are also suffering casualties there. 284 Americans have died and 711 wounded in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban and AQ. Using your logic, should we leave Afghanistan immediately? How long should we stay there?
Even stranger that there is an unprecendented number speaking out now, even from those recently commanding troops in Iraq. I respect the opinion of people who do the fighting, and I know many. The military does not have a bias against Repub presidents.
Unprecedented numbers? Compared to when? What are the numbers? You are making this stuff up out of whole cloth.
My going wobbly is of no import. The POTUS needs to stand up and reassure the public - and not through poor, wimpy Scott McClellan!
Of course he has stood up many times. Unfortuately, people like you refuse to believe him. You would rather believe the MSM, the Dem party, and a handful of disgruntled flag officers. The public wouldn't need reassurance if their weren't a MSM and Dem party distorting what is going on in Iraq. The President is being threatened with impeachment because he has the temerity to intercept AQ contacts with people inside the US. He has been accused by the Dems of torturing prisoners as a matter of official policy. The Dems tried to kill the renewal of the Patriot Act. You have Dem senators like Durbin comparing the US military to Pol Pot, the Nazis, and the Soviets. The attack on Rumsfeld is just another attack on Bush. I guess you sign on to the "Bush lied" crap as well.
Bush gave his unflinching support to Rumsfeld today. That is the way to stand up to the MSM and bankrupt Dem party.
Troll.
Not really...given that the Dems announced last year that they were pursuing a strategy of seeking these people out to both run for office, and to make periodic statements. Discontents (regardless of the validity of their reasons) are being actively recruited and put behind microphones.