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To: retMD
I think that IDer's need to be intellectually honest with themselves regarding their motives for wanting ID taught in schools. However, the FSM illustration would make its point far more effectively, if its inventor had taken the time to devise an original history/mythology rather than satirise Christianity. Perhaps Bobby Henderson should be intellectually honest about his motives for this " conception."
24 posted on 04/13/2006 2:25:24 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

I do agree with you that the IDers need to be intellectually honest with themselves regarding their motives for wanting ID taught in public schools...but there seems to be a real disconnect here...because, at least in the Dover trial, the witnesses wanting ID taught in the public schools, did not specify that the designer was to be designated as the Christian God...the thought being, that creation by an intelligent designer, could be carried out by any designer, any 'out or this world'(my phrase, for lack of a better description), creative force...that could include the Christian God, Space Aliens, or any one of many, many other creative forces, especially within different Native American groups...

But when most ID advocates come onto FR, and want ID taught as a science in public school, they are advocating, in the majority for the Christian God...its their attempt to bring Christian teachings into the public school...Frankly I believe that very few of the ID advocates on FR, would stand for the Intelligent Designer being designated as anyone other than the Christian God...

So what exactly is it?...is it to be ID taught, with the Christian God as the designer, or can any 'entity', be designated as the designer? This is where I think much of the problem is...and this is where the FSM pops up...in other words, if the designer can be any 'entity', then some figure, that the FSM is as good as the Christian God, or Space Aliens, or any number of gods from other cultures,and other religions...


35 posted on 04/13/2006 3:27:16 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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