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To: Can i say that here?

> The only way I could ever pull that off is if He shows me how I ought to interact with his Will.


Fine. Let's assume that. But... what difference would it make whether you pray for that or not? If God is going to show you something... he'll do it whether or not you ask, yes? If you can persuade God into doing something he previously wasn't going to do... doesn't that knock the pins out from under the idea that God is all knowing and all powerful?

Somehow I suspect that this issue will not be resolved here. I think people have been fighting this one out for a few centuries now.


53 posted on 04/13/2006 3:02:33 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
Fine. Let's assume that. But.

I have a feeling that if you and I ever met, we'd kick back, have a nice cup of coffee and have a nice chat about everything we have in common. I suspect this topic would not be one of them.

The chasm, as I see it, is that you're willing to concede every idea except the one where a God who is big enough to have a personal relationship with all six billion people at the same time, is also big enough to conform his Perfect will to accomodate the ignorance, weakness, and sometimes outright disobedience of us lowly humans.

I suspect that at that point, you would sum it up with, "Well, isn't that awfully convenient." 2+2+4 is awfully convenient too, in that it is based on the fact that 4 really is the right answer, we've just got to figure out how to get there.

But really, what it all comes down to is, Did Jesus Christ really raise from the dead? If your answer is no, then we really have nothing else to discuss. If Christ was not resurrected, then it's all a sham and I've been duped. So my opinion is worthless.

If he really did, then we're arguing minor issues, cause I'm pretty much gonna take him at his word from that point on.

May the blessings of our Lord Jesus Christ be upon you. Take care.

57 posted on 04/13/2006 7:32:53 PM PDT by Can i say that here?
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