Nativo Lopez Ping!
Isn't his name really something like Sam or Fred?
Posted on 04/12/2006 3:26:46 PM PDT by LouAvul
They invoke the names of Martin Luther King Jr. and Cesar Chavez, but the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who have marched nationwide are not following one charismatic leader.
Instead, they're loosely guided by Hispanic advocacy groups, churches and labor unions - organizations that have helped transform isolated campaigns in major cities into a broad movement with a coordinated strategy.
"There is no one leader, and that's a good thing," said Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican-American Political Association, a central organizer of rallies in Southern California. "It's a shared leadership among people who we don't even always know."
What began with a national organizational meeting just two months ago has resulted in unions blanketing workers with fliers at hotels, restaurants and stores, Roman Catholic churches accelerating their campaign of preaching to immigrants and pressuring politicians, and Hispanic community leaders working with radio deejays to give protesters detailed instructions: wear white, remain peaceful and be positive. And when marchers were criticized for carrying Mexican flags, organizers quickly spread the word to carry U.S. flags instead.
(Excerpt) Read more at modbee.com ...
Well, the Church wouldn't be able to do some of the good it does without assets to leverage.
The canard of "feeding the poor" is a false one, as even Jesus Himself didn't feed all the poor when He was alive.
If Jesus came back today, he would chase the bishops out.
He might, but you are being presumptuous if you think Jesus would be standing with you against these illegal immigrants.
If Congress and the President are ultimately only willing to offer a "virtual wall" to prevent unauthorized entry of foreign aliens into this country over our southern border with Mexico, why should the "estimated 11 million" "undocumented' aliens currently living in the US be offered anything more than "virtual amnesty"in return?
"Amnesty": an act by authority by which a pardon is granted to a large number of persons for past transgressions. Interstingly derived from the same root as amnesia.
"Virtual Amnesty". You can stay as long as and only as long as,
a) you have a job no american wants -- if an American shows up at your place of employment and asks for your job at any rate of pay up to 200% of your current wage and such person is ready able and capable of assuming your duties, you can move aside and leave. You have 60 days to find new employment or leave the country;
b) all your pay is reported as income to governmental authority and social security and income tax is properly withheld and paid (aliens are not eligible to receive social security benefits, the money would fund the inadequate SS reserve);
c) you pay all your own expenses and do not receive any public assistance for housing, medical care, food stamsp, aid to dependant children, or public education;
d) if you do receive public assistance, such as for emergency medical care, you will reimburse the full costs of any assistance received; if you are here with a spouse, family or 'domestic partner' de jure, your offspring are not U.S citizens, you waive that right on their behalf by remaining here.;
e) if you have children of school age, public authority will provide you with books, software and programs authorized for home schooling families. Statiistics indicate this is a much effective and valuable educational assistance than participating in public education;
f) you will not engage while in the United States in any political activity;
g) in particular you will not vote or attempt to vote;
h) membership, participation, active support or conspiracy with any organized criminal gang shall be the equivalent of a "third strke" felony. Conviction of same shall mean immediate and permanent deportation or incarceration for life at the option of the government. A criminal history prior to US entry shall be grounds for immediate deportation with a permanent bar to reentry;
i) If you commit any "malum per se" or "specific intent" crimes while present in the U.S, you shall serve your sentence and then be deported with a permanent bar to reentry;
j) At all times, any and all covered persons shall carry upon their person, sufficient and accurate identifying information as to the covered persons, identity, place of residence in the US., country of national citizenship, date of birth, place of birth, names of parents, and dates of entry into the United States; and,
k) At no time shall a covered person occupy, hold, or be compensated for performing any public sector job or position.
Conditions of limited license to remain in the US:
By electing to remain within US territory on or after 30 days after the enactment of this legislation, a covered individual voluntarily waives any protections of law, including any application of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, and consents at any reasonable time and upon any reasonable circumstance, such as but not limited to in any public place at any time, to being detained for a reasonable time without suspicion or other cause by law enforcement in order for governmental authority to verify the persons identity and compliance with these "tempory worker" statutes.
"Jail Tax" All covered persons and only such persons shall be subject to a 10% tax on income earned over and above all other taxes and assessments on income, to fund reimbursement of state and federal penal incarceration of undocumented aliens
Citizenship: If and when an applicant can affirmatively demonstrate 10 continuous years of compliance with the foregoing, or alternatively upon completion of a full term of service with any branch of the Armed Services of the United States resulting in an honorable discharge; and,
If and when the applciant can demonstrate fluency in the English language; and,
If and when the applicant can demonstrate a 12th grade equivalency of knowledge of American history and American literature and American Laws
Said applicant may then apply for American citizenship.
Notwithstanding any of the above, not more than 750,000 complying alien persons shall in any year become citizens of the United States.
"The only thing you have to lose is your chains."
- Lenin... or was it Clinton?
Very true. But I cannot say the same for different cultures. When I hear people say that our culture in no better than some other culture, I freak out. I am a "culturist" who believes that certain cultures are defective.
The people are the Church. Those who are active that I know are far from lost.
Indulgences? All are a big part of the Church.
Not the last time I looked.
But they don't feed the poor or spread the true word.
No, artwork and property (church buildings?) don't feed the poor. Money collected from the Church feeds the poor. Catholic Charities is huge. (OK, hugh.)
If Jesus came back today, he would chase the bishops out.
Some of them, yeah. He could do the same to ANY clergy from ANY church.
Time for the Church to realize that we Americans respect our laws. Illegal means illegal.
I agree.
Isn't his name really something like Sam or Fred?
Larry. And He hates it.
This man is trouble. He's a VERY angry man and IMO he hates America/Americans. He's got plans to put ALL Mexicans in our government, so we can become a corrupt nation like Mexico.
This is not about workers rights or fair immigration policies. It has to do with international communist/socialist orgs looking to gain the political upperhand in the U.S..
Posted by JeffHead Jeff links to Mexica.org's 'after protest' pic fest. You can see there what the marchers thought they were marching for.
A poster for Friday’s march. March 31. This poster lists the Latino orgs that are promoting the protests. They are all communist/socialist front orgs.
Here is my analysis of what is going on behind the scenes.
Here is some evidence that 'amnesty' increases illegal entries. These people knew before the demonstrations that the time was ripe.
Smith Act of 1940 This is the U.S. statute that ought to apply to the organized gathering of tens of thousands of foreign nationals calling for the overthrow of our country.
H.R. 4437 At this link you will find a good exegesis of the only bill that doesn't offer some type of amnesty/pathway to citizenship/excuses for illegal entry. It is harsh on employers but has reasonable protections for employers who verify documents that are later shown to be false. It explains that the databases necessary are already in place. It provides for border security.
Understand that the provision that the protesters say is 'racist,' that makes illegals felons, was inserted by the Dems a short time ago. That clarifies why Hillary happened to discover the immigration issue a week before the marches. Why she demonized Republicans as "making Jesus a criminal."
Keep in mind just who organized these protests. Who provided the tens of thousands of T-shirts, the thousands of professionally made signs, the hours and hours of promotion on Spanish language radio and TV stations. It has been noticed that Islamic orgs names and logos appear on some of these signs as well. Remember that NEA teachers and administrators are the ones who have assisted the march organizers by providing bussing for their students, hoisting Mexican flags at school and overlooking the truancy.
Don't forget that the last two Presidential elections were nearly 50/50. Think about how our Congress is looking for a way to appease these foreign nationals through legislation. No election necessary. The outcome of legalizing 11 million illegals and encouraging more to come will be a solid lock for the left forevermore in national elections. We don’t need an ‘immigration’ bill. We need and want a border security and illegal aliens bill. An immigration/guest worker bill can come after that is done.
Mexico is Rich- Mexican wealthy play American taxpayers for suckers
Good thread for any that missed it. It should really make you mad.
Every dollar spent in U.S. taxes for social services for illegal aliens frees up additional cash to be sent south as part of the annual remittances which provided $20 billion in 2005. According to the CNN news show Lou Dobbs Tonight (3/21/05), "Remittances, as they're called, are expected to become Mexico's primary source of income this year, surpassing the amount of money that Mexico makes on oil exports for the first time ever."
Mayans in Chiapas Region Convert to Islam
The bill that was just defeated in the Senate was an amnesty, plain and simple. But take a look at what these treasonous scumbags tried to hide in it. They will be back and we can expect more of this if we do not act decisively.
Hidden Bombs (Extremely Important Article on Immigration)
The second nasty surprise? Just before the committee approved the bill on the evening of March 27, Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) offered the "DREAM Act" as an amendment. It passed on a voice vote.The DREAM Act is a nightmare. It repeals a 1996 law that prohibits state universities from offering in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens. The principle, of course, is that no illegal alien should be entitled to receive a taxpayer-subsidized benefit that out-of-state U.S. citizens can't get. But the committee's bill allows illegals to be treated better than those U.S. citizens on tuition.
That ousted, arrogant sack of lard (and that's just the "hairdo"!) actually spewed that? Amazing.
Then again, our local beret-wearing idiots started out attending public meetings declaring themselves Anahuac Nativists ... more recently they claim to be champions for "all oppressed peoples."
Why would he not be?
Jesus stood with the poor.
Did he condone breaking the law?
bttt
Depended on the law. Jesus broke many of the silly 613 laws that the Pharisees established for Judaism.
The Catholic Church, in it's Catechism, does NOT condone illegal aliens breaking the law, and it teaches that nations have the right to establish and enforce immigration policies. In addition, it says that immigrants have a duty to be grateful to their new home nation, and to assimilate. I have posted this in other threads, and will keep posting it. I am tired of hearing that the Catholic Church is behind this crap. As a Catholic, I MOST CERTAINLY AM NOT!! Certain members of the hierarchy ARE, however, and shame on them. They must be opposed. Cardinal Mahony, and all his fellow travellers, are apparently ignoring the doctrine of the Church in order to advance their own secular marxist agenda. I hope Benedict smacks them down, but I am not counting on it.
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church....
"2241 ...Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants'duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."
How do you think Jesus would treat our immigration laws?
You are a credit to your relegion.
He would urge compassion and a consideration for those who have been here a good while, with kids in school and a life established.
Exactly what the Catholic bishops and the Senate are urging.
Jesus stood with the poor and with those who were shunned by Jewish society.
There is nothing to indicate in any of His actions or words that He would be on the side of those screaming for repatriation for every illegal here.
He would also be advocating for allowing more legal immigrants every year, and streamlining the process.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.