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Durham Rape Case Turns Political
WTVD ^ | April 12, 2006

Posted on 04/12/2006 9:41:50 AM PDT by NCjim

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To: TommyDale

Then if there was no presence of sperm, why run the DNA test? And how did the DA get the search warrant authorizing the DNA collection for almost the entire team? Something's screwy.


41 posted on 04/12/2006 10:18:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: LK44-40
I don't think his [Nifong's] performance in all this is quite as bad as it's being portrayed.

Do you think his giving 70 interviews proclaiming that she WAS raped is proper behavior for a DA w/OUT any verified DNA evidence and BEFORE charges have been made?

42 posted on 04/12/2006 10:22:29 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: teawithmisswilliams

I think it's funny/sad that the boys are morally judged for hiring the stripper, yet no one can question the woman's "profession."


43 posted on 04/12/2006 10:22:45 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: gondramB
"Your(sic)asking why I have not arrested a bunch of white people when only four out of 44 are thought to be guilty?"

Hey, Mr. DA, isn't it supposed to be "innocent until proved guilty" here in the United States of America? Is your career more important than the lives and reputations of 44 young men?

One of John Stossel's biggest stories came out of Brown U. some years ago, when a coed accused a young man of rape. She was drunk out of her mind, and her "feminist" friends (think Imette St. Gimmette) left her passed out on a dorm floor, so there might have been a sexual encounter OR NOT between this girl and **** ****. The drunken whore went to a rape center 3 weeks later, and the boy was quickly vilified, crucified, expelled from Brown. I don't know her name, I will never forget that boy's name, **** ****.
I hope that little skank suffers every day for what she did to that boy. No charges ever filed or proved. John Stossel was booed off the campus by the feminist hyenas.

These two semi-pro hookers are just looking to shake down Duke, and anyone else they can. Shame on stupid people who throw their common sense out the window in the name of compassion.
44 posted on 04/12/2006 10:23:23 AM PDT by ishabibble (UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I hope the "governance-by-riot" or "governance-by-noisy-demonstration" plan being followed by France isn't the one the US will be following, either in local prosecutions like this or in national debates about illegal immigration.

Too late. The illegals are winning because they are noisey about it and pandering politicians don't want to lose campaign $'s or the illegal's vote.

45 posted on 04/12/2006 10:25:31 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: NCjim

This became political within hours of the 'rape' being reported.


46 posted on 04/12/2006 10:25:53 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: LK44-40

Not only was there no DNA, the test indicated that the stripper had not had sex in several weeks. Game - Set - Match.


47 posted on 04/12/2006 10:28:28 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: mewzilla

There was not only no semen, there was also no perspiration, saliva, hair, tears or blood. How did he get a warrant? That's what a lot of people would like to know. The "Probable Cause" here is probably fiction. The DA will never
win the upcoming election.


48 posted on 04/12/2006 10:29:35 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Neverforget01
FYI Rush is covering right now

I just listened to him for about ten minutes...now in break, not sure if he is done with his commentary.

Rush used only Nifong quotes from yesterday that showed Nifong pandering to the black audience at NCCU. He did ~not~ use the quotes in which Nifong confronted some audience members. I generally agreed with Rush's remarks but they were far from "fair and balanced." They were selective and pandering to our side.

Rush also put a good bit of sarcastic emphasis on the on-going DA's race. As Nifong himself said, he does not get to choose the cases that come before him. My sense is that he did not cynically seek to ride this case to election. It was explosive and the community -- black and liberal white -- was in an outrage over perceived lack of action. I really don't think any DA could have been expected to silently sit out this uproar, elections or no elections. Nifong had to speak out, which is not to say that he hit quite the right note.

The upcoming election and this event can never be teased apart. Ofcourse, Nifong wants to look strong in front of his constituency. If he sat silently through this, he would be politically hammered to death.

49 posted on 04/12/2006 10:36:36 AM PDT by LK44-40
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To: TommyDale
As referenced by Rush: Racism
50 posted on 04/12/2006 10:37:32 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: NCjim

In general, the SOP for these things is that if the alleged victim insists on following through with the case, the DA usually complies in spite of the evidence unless he's faced with hard proof that the accuser is lying.


51 posted on 04/12/2006 10:39:17 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Doing the job Americans will do, paying the taxes illegals don't pay.)
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To: LK44-40
Nifong wants to look strong in front of his constituency. If he sat silently through this, he would be politically hammered to death.

this DA made some horrific assumptions from the start. He gave 70 interviews before going silent. The forum he appeard at yesterday was NCCU, college of the accuser. He's been far from professional. In fact, as some have mentioned he went out on a limb early and can't crawl back--

52 posted on 04/12/2006 10:42:26 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: LK44-40
As Nifogn himself said, he does not get to choose the cases that come before him.

Sheer unadulterated baloney. Asst. District Attorney Frieda Black usually tries the murder and rape cases in Durham.

However, Nifong CHOSE to try this one. (Not so incidentally, Frieda Black is running against him for the DA job in the May 2 primary.)

53 posted on 04/12/2006 10:44:58 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: LK44-40
"They were selective and pandering to our side."

Excuse me, but what do you mean by "our side"? My side is getting to the truth, and having justice served.

54 posted on 04/12/2006 10:45:14 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: cdga5for4

That's called "characterizing" the victim. The moral, ethical, or previous criminal background of the accuser can in no way be taken into account when prosecuting the case, or in the initial defense of the charges by the accused. Trust me, we learned the hard way when our son was among the top ranked quarterbacks in the nation and was accused by a young black woman of trying to assault her. You'd be amazed what's going on in our country today and who's getting by with it. The fact that our son's accuser was linked to stalking other atheletes, threatening others and assaulting others before and after she went after our son was in no way taken into consideration. Believe me, the race card fell with a thud when she threatened to bring in Al Sharpton. We knew we'd been had and big time. I'm still paying off the legal expenses and darned near went bankrupt to save a great young man.


55 posted on 04/12/2006 10:49:30 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: cdga5for4

"I think it's funny/sad that the boys are morally judged for hiring the stripper, yet no one can question the woman's "profession." "

Indeed.

The underlying assumption being of course, that this is acceptable survival behavior for a poor, black female in an oppressive culture dominated by white, Christian males. In this case the elite media gets a bonus adjective in that they are presumed to be "southern" white, Christian males.


56 posted on 04/12/2006 10:50:10 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: cdga5for4

That's called "characterizing" the victim. The moral, ethical, or previous criminal background of the accuser can in no way be taken into account when prosecuting the case, or in the initial defense of the charges by the accused. Trust me, we learned the hard way when our son was among the top ranked quarterbacks in the nation and was accused by a young black woman of trying to assault her. You'd be amazed what's going on in our country today and who's getting by with it. The fact that our son's accuser was linked to stalking other atheletes, threatening others and assaulting others before and after she went after our son was in no way taken into consideration.


57 posted on 04/12/2006 10:50:25 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: NCjim

Here's something I heard last evening on the local news: It seems the players have volunteered to take polygraph tests to prove their innocence. Knowing it can't be used in a court of law as evidence, the DA would be smart to allow this and also ask the victim to take the same test. That could be a way out for him.


58 posted on 04/12/2006 10:52:44 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

my heartfelt sympathy for your son and you. What happened to HER?


59 posted on 04/12/2006 10:53:03 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Carolinamom
I believe that I indicated that I was not defending all of Nifong's behavior.

We need to bear in mind that he received this case with a complaining "victim" making a sworn allegagion, a strongly -- although not conclusive -- substantiating hospital report (from a trauma center supposedly expert in these matters), and the behavior of the LAX team that lent a certain plausibility to the whole episode. Most people thought, early-on, as did Nifong, that this was a real crime.

I really heard very little of his many interviews, but it seems clear from the comments of other that he got well out on a limb.

I ~did~ hear him ~yesterday~, at length, and thought that his comments -- taken in their totality -- were not unreasonable. He sounded to me like a prosecutor, who happens to be a liberal and who has made some mistakes. My impression is that he wants to do an honest job. When it looks to everyone like a gang rape, I don't really fault a prosecutor for saying he would vigorously prosecute. And he was under enormous pressure. I expect that he wishes now that he had been a little more restrained.

60 posted on 04/12/2006 10:55:11 AM PDT by LK44-40
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