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This is HARDBALL on MSNBC.
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[NOTE: My comments in blue.]
MATTHEWS: We're back with Anne Kornblut of "The New York Times" and Dana Milbank of "The Washington Post." Let's talk about Gotham's candidates for president.
First, Rudolph Giuliani, the pro-choice, pro-gay rights, former mayor spent today, or the day in Orlando speaking to a conference of Evangelicals.
Dana, he's up to it, isn't he? This is below the radar. This is Rudy campaigning for president in the south.
MILBANK: This is about as convincing as Jerry Falwell at the gay pride parade.
MATTHEWS: You don't buy this?
MILBANK: Well, he can try to do it. But, look, he faces an awful uphill battle in winning over the typical Republican voter in a primary. Now, if the election was fought on national security, he is fine. But he's never going to convince them that he is one of them, that he is a religious conservative.
KORNBLUT: Right and not only that, but he's going to be in a death struggle with John McCain for the exact same constituency.
MATTHEWS: Let me tell you something. I'll say it here a thousand time. Watch Rudolph Giuliani. Watch him. Security is the issue in this country. Whoever is the next president is going to be seen as more on the ball than even this president on security and terrorism. This country is not going sort on terrorism. We are going to get smarter on it is my hunch.
And Rudy is the guy to do it. And he can be an SOB in many ways. But this country may really want an SOB, a really tough cop as the next president. So watch Rudy, I'm saying it.
Now here is Hillary Clinton, that other New Yorker in the subway series. A new Gallup poll just came out. "USA TODAY" Gallup poll, it shows that 16 percent say that they'll definitely vote for Hillary right now, 32 percent say they might vote for her.
But here's the dagger in the back. Fifty-one percent say they would definitely not vote for Hillary Clinton already the campaign hasn't begun.
KORNBLUT: I mean, this is exactly what Democrats are worried about is that already people have made up their minds. I would argue, I guess, that it is awfully early. We all know how early it is to be talking about this.
MATTHEWS: Definitely.
KORNBLUT: Definitely? What does definitely mean? [Definitely means DEFINITELY.] You know, you would have to see how is the question exactly phrased, all that stuff. It is early. [Actually Anne, it is late. In fact, it is too late. The country knows exactly who this woman is, Anne.]
MATTHEWS: But there's lot of tooth behind that. If somebody tells a pollster, I've already made up my mind definitely.
KORNBLUT: And, look, I know more Democrats who believe this though than Republicans. A lot of Republicans say that this is a deceptive number, that once she gets out there with all of her money running against who, Giuliani or McCain, the numbers may not be that weak. [She has 100% name recognition, Anne. You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear. Even when the sow isn't hillary.]
MATTHEWS: How much of that is don't throw me in that briar patch, Dana? We're so afraid of Hillary. Please don't run her against us. She'll kill us.
MILBANK: Anne is right that these polls are completely useless because you don't know what the alternative is. But the fact is that she... [Earth to Dana: 51% would vote for their mother-in-law before they would vote for HER.]
MATTHEWS: OK. McCain against Hillary. Who wins?
MILBANK: Well, that's fine. If you can tell me that's how it is going to turn out. But we don't know.
MATTHEWS: Well, let me ask you about these definite numbers in a poll. Do you believe the definite? Do you believe somebody right in 2006 knows how they are going to vote in 2008?
MILBANK: I think they definitely think that's what they are going to do right now, but they have no idea what they are going to be doing in a couple years. And Hillary is going to have the opposite problem of Rudy. And that is she's absolutely fine with her base if she decides to run. But she is seemingly incapable of crossing over.
MATTHEWS: The poll was taken over the week right through Sunday, the Gallup poll. And the Gallup poll is, of course, the most prestigious poll there is right now and has been for years.
Dana, do you think she's paying the price for her plantation remark last week?
MILBANK: Probably not. Because, once again, plays very well the base. The people who were objecting to it were never going to support her in the first case. And I really think the only thing that this is right now is do people recognize her name. [What is it you don't understand, here? We recognize her name, yes. And we abhor the person attached to that name. Get it?]
KORNBLUT: And I would add to that. It's 51 percent say definitely not. Remember the margin that's we've been talking about in the last few presidential races, 51 percent is terrible, but all she would have to do is bump it by a few numbers, a few percentage points and be OK. [I can see why Pinch hired you, Anne. Your Alice-in-Wonderland illogic is quintessential New York Times. With 100% name recognition and roughly 10% corruption recognition (thanks in no small measure to your rag), missus clinton has only one way to go. And it isn't up.]
... Anyway, thank you Anne Kornblut of "The New York Times," Dana Milbank of "The Washington Post."
Join us again tomorrow night at 5:00 and 7:00 Eastern for more HARDBALL. Right now it is time for "THE ABRAM'S REPORT" with Dan.
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Ironically, the logic of this pronouncement by Martin Luther King would, in short order, be refuted by the reality of his own lynching. King's hope was misplaced and his reasoning was circular. The resultant rule of law relied on by King presumed an adherence to the rule of law in the first instance.
Adherence to the rule of law is not something normally associated with the clintons. Moreover, racial and ethnic disrespect, intimidation, exploitation and hate have always been a fundamental clinton tactic and the reflexive use the "N"-word and other racial and ethnic slurs, an essential element in the clinton lexicon. When the "first black president" and his wife ran Arkansas, the NAACP sued them for intimidating black voters at the polls.
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Adherence to the rule of law is not something normally associated with the clintons. Moreover, racial and ethnic disrespect, intimidation, exploitation and hate have always been a fundamental clinton tactic and the reflexive use the "N"-word and other racial and ethnic slurs, an essential element in the clinton lexicon. When the "first black president" and his wife ran Arkansas, the NAACP sued them for intimidating black voters at the polls.
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The dragon is dying. The fire that emanates from it's mouth continues, but it's legs are being severed by truth.
The populace will be spared.
Kudos again, MiaT!
great suggestion! If anyone has that audio, pls send it to me. Thx. :)
over here ping
The more pressure we keep on Mexico, immigration-wise, the more reformers
inside of Mexico can be emboldened and empowered to scale back monopolists'
abuses down there which keep our own country flooded with economic refugees.
Here's an interesting new thread on new legal reform progress that finally
emerged in Mexico I think as a result of immigration reform's failure:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1611677/posts
We can make a difference for our sake, and their's as well. Isn't it the
neighborly thing to do?
Right on mark/bttt.
If Congress and the President are ultimately only willing to offer a "virtual wall" to prevent unauthorized entry of foreign aliens into this country over our southern border with Mexico, why should the "estimated 11 million" "undocumented' aliens currently living in the US be offered anything more than "virtual amnesty"in return?
"Amnesty": an act by authority by which a pardon is granted to a large number of persons for past transgressions. Interstingly derived from the same root as amnesia.
"Virtual Amnesty". You can stay as long as and only as long as,
a) you have a job no american wants -- if an American shows up at your place of employment and asks for your job at any rate of pay up to 200% of your current wage and such person is ready able and capable of assuming your duties, you can move aside and leave. You have 60 days to find new employment or leave the country;
b) all your pay is reported as income to governmental authority and social security and income tax is properly withheld and paid (aliens are not eligible to receive social security benefits, the money would fund the inadequate SS reserve);
c) you pay all your own expenses and do not receive any public assistance for housing, medical care, food stamsp, aid to dependant children, or public education;
d) if you do receive public assistance, such as for emergency medical care, you will reimburse the full costs of any assistance received; if you are here with a spouse, family or 'domestic partner' de jure, your offspring are not U.S citizens, you waive that right on their behalf by remaining here.;
e) if you have children of school age, public authority will provide you with books, software and programs authorized for home schooling families. Statiistics indicate this is a much effective and valuable educational assistance than participating in public education;
f) you will not engage while in the United States in any political activity;
g) in particular you will not vote or attempt to vote;
h) membership, participation, active support or conspiracy with any organized criminal gang shall be the equivalent of a "third strke" felony. Conviction of same shall mean immediate and permanent deportation or incarceration for life at the option of the government. A criminal history prior to US entry shall be grounds for immediate deportation with a permanent bar to reentry;
i) If you commit any "malum per se" or "specific intent" crimes while present in the U.S, you shall serve your sentence and then be deported with a permanent bar to reentry;
j) At all times, any and all covered persons shall carry upon their person, sufficient and accurate identifying information as to the covered persons, identity, place of residence in the US., country of national citizenship, date of birth, place of birth, names of parents, and dates of entry into the United States; and,
k) At no time shall a covered person occupy, hold, or be compensated for performing any public sector job or position.
Conditions of limited license to remain in the US:
By electing to remain within US territory on or after 30 days after the enactment of this legislation, a covered individual voluntarily waives any protections of law, including any application of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, and consents at any reasonable time and upon any reasonable circumstance, such as but not limited to in any public place at any time, to being detained for a reasonable time without suspicion or other cause by law enforcement in order for governmental authority to verify the persons identity and compliance with these "tempory worker" statutes.
"Jail Tax" All covered persons and only such persons shall be subject to a 10% tax on income earned over and above all other taxes and assessments on income, to fund reimbursement of state and federal penal incarceration of undocumented aliens
Citizenship: If and when an applicant can affirmatively demonstrate 10 continuous years of compliance with the foregoing, or alternatively upon completion of a full term of service with any branch of the Armed Services of the United States resulting in an honorable discharge; and,
If and when the applciant can demonstrate fluency in the English language; and,
If and when the applicant can demonstrate a 12th grade equivalency of knowledge of American history and American literature and American Laws
Said applicant may then apply for American citizenship.
Notwithstanding any of the above, not more than 750,000 complying alien persons shall in any year become citizens of the United States.
Hillary has long become a parody of herself--hummingbird
hillary clinton, farce
is now a farce of farce...
a verifiable arse.
thanx :)
"g" is a nonstarter for the clintons and the left, generally.
They see illegal aliens as they do blacks: in inhuman terms, i.e., as votes,
(and not even worthy of their contempt, therefore).
"g" will smoke them out.
- Why do you suppose the clintons and Landrieu -- through Mayor ('chocolate... You can't have New Orleans no other way') Nagin -- tried to get their voters back, post haste (no trouble bussing 'em straightaway and en masse when it's to the polls) -- to a still toxic morgue with no potable water, no emergency support and with renewed risk of deluge?
Mia T, 01.18.06
GONE WITH THE WIND
(miss hillary's 'plantation' blunder)
- Calculating a black man's worth to be 5/3 of a vote is no less racist, and arguably more so, than calculating his worth to be 3/5 of a white man; the latter is demeaning, but the former is dehumanizing.
Mia T, 07.23.05
THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT?
clinton legacy of lynching update
Full transcript. Video excerpt: RealPlayer or Windows Media. Plus MP3
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"I am not a crook"
by Mia T, 07.08.05
"Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady... is a congenital liar.*
William Safire, Blizzard of Lies
*The first word I had in mind was 'prevaricator,' which means 'liar,' and the second one was 'dissembler,' which also means 'liar.'"
"She's the most unbelievable actress I have ever met," said a woman who worked on Hillary's Senate campaign. "I remember one time at a Women's Leadership Forum event in New York, thirty of us sat around Hillary, talking about politics. And she said, 'You know, I love this organization, not just because we sit around and talk about politics, but because of the bonds of friendship forming around us.' The way she said it, people were riveted by her performance. But I had gotten to know her, and I could tell she didn't mean it. She has this unbelievable ability to be a liar. She is soulless."
EDWARD KLEIN
THE TRUTH ABOUT HILLARY >>
You are relentless, dear Mia T. A savage.
I really love that about you -- and thank G-d for you -- and that you're on our side.
Passover shalom - Blessings - Brian
Mia, Treasure Trove of Truth, T bump!
thanx :)
A nobel one, I hope. ;)
Vous êtes en effet une Nobel sauvage et êtes, par cette noblesse, naturellement, obligée!
À quelque prix, maintiennent votre savagery et votre engagement noble!
Pour le plus certainement, la survie de notre république fraternelle aimée -- et tout à fait probable aussi que de la civilisation humaine soi-même -- peut se reposer sur vos épaules!
Mais vous pouvez manipuler le travail!
Bénédictions - Brian
Did Hannity use this on his show yesterday?
Quite the reverse. ;) Hannity was the source of the audio. (See top of page.)
Do you know who was born on yesterday's date, in 1743?
Lemme guess.... Jefferson? ;)
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