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Are they really different?
They're such Stalinist freaks.
I told my preacher that they had until the end of the meeting. I will be very interested in what they come up with.
I have given my tithing statement to the church for this year but I told the preacher not to count on me next year. My butt and my money would be down the street in the PCA church.
If you google Gretchen Graf, you will get to the church she pastors. The home page has pix of its employees. It's very nearly an all-gal operation. Interesting the degree of gender change in the lamestream churches in one generation.
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Getchen Graf sounds like she is deranged and doesn't have the first clue what Christianity is.
Less than half of PC(USA)Presbyterians are are crappy as the leadership. The Liberal leadership took over by stealth. Very few support their leaderless weirdness and views. It is the blind trying to steer the blinded into a ditch.
good morning,
see:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1612311/posts
"The reason is that the Left sees Islam as a de facto ally—as Marxists would say, an “objective ally”—in the destruction of the vestiges of the traditional society based upon Christianity and its moral code, and traditional cultural patterns. So what they are doing is using Islam as the battering ram and as a would-be fellow-traveler, in their grand anti-Christian, Christophobic design. They hope that once they create their brave, new multiculturalist Utopia, Islam can be tamed, that soft porn and state education will convert the Muslims’ offspring to the general multiculturalist melange. "
"At the theological level, the fundamental difference is the absence of love. It needs to be understood that Islam’s denial of the Trinity creates a completely different world outlook. “Allah begets not,” i.e. he is no Father, and “is not begotten,” i.e. he is no Son, and no one is like him, i.e. no Holy Spirit. The utterly . . . not only “monotheistic” but monistic image of the world under an unreachable, unknowable god, creates the kind of spiritual uniformity that ultimately results in both cultural and social-economic wasteland that is the Muslim world today."
THE ATTACHED ARTICLE ABOUT SAYS IT ALL.THE LIBERAL SO CALLED CHRISTIAN EMBRACEMENT OF LEFT LEANING THEOLOGICAL AND POLITICAL IDEAOLOGY IS A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.THE WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES WHICH ECUSA,PCUSA,CHURCH OF CHRIST,LDS,UNITARIAN,UNIVERSALIST AND ON AND ON SO-CALLED CHRISTIAN CHURCHES BELONG TOO ARE PART AND PARCEL TO THIS.
Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
I STRONGLY ADVISE DISCERNMENT IN EMBRACEING ALL WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIAN AS BRETHREN.
Yep.
Why in the world would anyone who claims to be a Christian support a church that would let Gretchen Graf be a "minister"?
PCUSA is nothing more than ACLU cloaking itself in the bible... its not a religion... at least not any more.
Some Presbyterians...PCUSA.
Not all.
My church, the Reformed Presby, would strongly disagree with this, as would virtually all PCUSA churches as well despite them being much more liberal than the RP.
Shame on PCUSA. They should not even be called Presbyterian Church.