[dhs12345]

Good idea.

Wasn't it Plato who believed that what we create here on earth as humans has a "perfect" counterpart in heaven? Analogous to the existence of prime numbers even if humans don't exist. Or... yes, a tree makes a sound even if no one is there to here it.

[RightWhale]

what we create here on earth as humans has a "perfect" counterpart in heaven

Yeah, pretty much. What we deal with is only ideas based on an ultimate reality we can never know.