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To: Conservative Texan Mom

> This strawman thing seems to be quite convenient to throw out there when there is something you prefer not to answer.

Yes, because you're debating dishonestly. I have little interest in actually debatign those who use such blatant falsehoods.

>>(Please debate honestly, please)

>It would not occur to me to do otherwise.

Obviously, it has, since you've gone to the bother of inventing positions for your "opponant," positions he doesn't hold.


167 posted on 04/12/2006 6:34:24 AM PDT by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libera nos, Domine)
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To: orionblamblam
(Obviously, it has, since you've gone to the bother of inventing positions for your "opponant," positions he doesn't hold.)


If this is not a position you hold, then I shall do what I said, and recant. But, I did not invent this position just to oppose you.


This is YOUR statement.


(People can indeed choose to believe in utter superstitious rubbish. And in a way, that's for the best. We need stratification in society. While some will choose to discover facts and will go to the stars, some will choose to disbelieve facts, and will serve a useful role scrubbing toilets and sweeping the streets, and wondering why it is that their prayers aren't curing their diseases.)


You seem to pride yourself on ridiculing those who believe in God. I had deduced, incorrectly it seems, that your belief is that there is no God. Which, applied to its full extent would mean that evolution was not designed. Now, it is your right to believe this, just as it is someone else's right to believe that there is a design guiding evolution. It seemed to me, that the root cause of your ridicule was emanating from this fundamental belief, which you do have the right to have. However, if this was the underlying foundation for your statements, such as the one above, I have the right to call to your attention that this is philosophical in nature. If it is dishonest to conclude this to be a philosophical issue, then please list all evidence that evolution could not have been designed by a creator, designer, maker, or so forth.


Since my premise is false though, and you do not take this position, then I stand corrected.

Hypothetically, if my premise were correct, then one should be careful in examining the root cause of derogatory statements before posting.


I am failing to see why you think I am dishonest, even though you keep insisting. I will concede that I may have drawn a false premise about you if I have taken your comments out of context. It was not purposefully dishonest.


(Yes, because you're debating dishonestly. I have little interest in actually debatign those who use such blatant falsehoods.)



May I suggest that you are accusing me of being dishonest because I am confronting you on a belief issue, and not a scientific one. I have no problem with you if your belief is that there is no purposeful design behind evolution. I do have a problem with you throwing out insults emanating from a false since of superiority based on such a belief.

Since this is not what you were doing, then never mind.


Will you kindly point out my falsehoods so I will formulate more accurate premises in the future.
183 posted on 04/12/2006 10:55:13 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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