[Conservative Texan Mom]

(Nobody is dissing those who believe in some god or other. However, it's fully appropiate to dis those who believe that their god created a universe full of fraudulent evidence for the purposes of fooling that gods creations.)


Is that what you AREN'T doing here.

(People can indeed choose to believe in utter superstitious rubbish. And in a way, that's for the best. We need stratification in society. While some will choose to discover facts and will go to the stars, some will choose to disbelieve facts, and will serve a useful role scrubbing toilets and sweeping the streets, and wondering why it is that their prayers aren't curing their diseases.)




And here


(Darwin's discovery of the facts of evolution, however, cannot be destroyed or swept under the rug, no matter how much the supernaturalists might want to.)



Here again


(Take it up with the superanturalists. They are the true experts at name-calling.)



Here too

(Is there *anything* funnier than a creationist? Well, the geocentrists, probably, but they are pretty rare. Though we do have some here at FR, disturbingly.)


I believe in God. I'm not a YEC. I believe evolution occurs, but, too what extent, I'm yet unsure. I do not dispute any evidence that supports evolution. I do wonder if it is always interpreted correctly. I don't think there is a stitch of fraudulent evidence around. I do believe that life was designed. I don't think it is appropriate to be taught as science under the criteria that defines science. I do think it is appropriate to be taught as philosophy. I also find the assertion that there is no designer, and it all just happened to be another philosophical view. Even though I believe in a designer, I do not advocate stopping research, as it would be most interesting to discover how a designer might have done it. I'm not sure why so many on these threads are terrified of belief in God leading to the "Dark Ages". It seems that many on these threads share my philosophy, and support further research even though they believe life was designed. You are rather belligerent in defending your philosophy. I would encourage you to quite hiding behind science in defense of your belief, and to debate it philosophically, as that is a more appropriate arena

[orionblamblam]

>>(Nobody is dissing those who believe in some god or other. However, it's fully appropiate to dis those who believe that their god created a universe full of fraudulent evidence for the purposes of fooling that gods creations.)

> Is that what you AREN'T doing here.

Actually, it's *exactly* what I'm doing here. I'm dissing those who abandon reason for madness, who determine that the purely mundane in fact must have supernatural explanations.

> I'm not sure why so many on these threads are terrified of belief in God leading to the "Dark Ages".

Here's yopur problem: there's almost certainly *NOBODY* on these threads who believes any such thing. So, why do you say there are? Have you been tricked? Are you lying? Have you not thought about things critically?

Nobody is afraid that belief in God is goign to lead toa Dark Age. However, the wiser of us recognize that replacing hard fact with sup[erstition *can* lead toa Dark Age. You want to believe in a god? go right ahead. you want to beleive that the world was created last Thursday, looking old with our memories built in place? That's nuts. And that's just not that different from creationism.

> You are rather belligerent in defending your philosophy.

No. I'm rather belligerantly defending *reality.*

> debate it philosophically

Why? Should I also debate the germ theory of disease philosophically rather than scientifically? How about the theory of relativity? How about the theory of gravity? How about the historical theories that hold that the Nazis tried to exterminate Europe's Jews? In philosophy, there is no "wrong" answer. In science, there is.