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To: dmz

What part of drinking to NOT get DRUNK didn't you understand. 1-2 drinks in an hour with a meal does not equal a mild buzz.

Every single time a MJ smoker lights up it is with the explicit intent of getting high, be that a minor buzz or stoned that was the intent.

Every smoker defends their "right" to get high by comparing their vice to those who drink alcohol. When the vast majority (overwhelmingly vast) drink alcohol solely for the social aspect of it, where as the very act of lighting up a joint is with the intent of causing some type of effect on their body.

Of course, those who use "for medicinal purposes", and fall under the protection of state laws which legalize it, are not included in my statement of impared judgement for lighting up. Although I will tell you that I am a firm believer that the majority of those with prescriptions for MJ in those places are simply users looking for a legal means to abuse their poison of choice.

When you drink with the intent to get plastered or smoke with the intent to catch a buzz you are by definition abusing the substance no matter what it is. Smoking your weed to catch a buzz is no different than some kid huffing canned air to get high, both are abuse. I admit freely that I have been guilty, even in times more recent, I have abused alcohol in line with my own definition. The problem is too many MJ smokers simply wont admit that using the drug to "catch a buzz" is abuse.


57 posted on 04/11/2006 10:22:39 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: American_Centurion
1-2 drinks in an hour with a meal does not equal a mild buzz.

And in some jurisdictions, one or two drinks an hour with a meal will qualify you for a DUI. It doesn't matter if you think you're not drunk---what matters is the amount of alcohol in your system.

Your "just to catch a buzz" reasoning is absolutely childish.

71 posted on 04/11/2006 10:34:01 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: American_Centurion

and what part don't you understand that smoking pot doesn't equal to get high! you are putting all the pot user in the same category! please consider in expending your horizon! pot is oftenly used for social occasions! but yes a lot of them (more the teens) use it to get high as much as they use alcool to get high also!


74 posted on 04/11/2006 10:42:39 AM PDT by davesdude
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To: American_Centurion
What part of drinking to NOT get DRUNK didn't you understand. 1-2 drinks in an hour with a meal does not equal a mild buzz.

Yes, it does. Give 1-2 drinks in an hour, even with a meal, to a first-time drinker, and they will have a buzz. Experienced drinkers have a mild buzz also, but it is less noticeable because they have elevated tolerance. Alcohol affects the body from the first sip.

76 posted on 04/11/2006 10:44:13 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: American_Centurion
When the vast majority (overwhelmingly vast) drink alcohol solely for the social aspect of it

Are you one of those weirdos who drinks non-alcoholic beer?

128 posted on 04/11/2006 11:46:31 AM PDT by jmc813 (I Thessalonians 5:9-11)
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To: American_Centurion
Kind of a broad statement that you believe that the majority of folks with prescription marijuana are doing it for the buzz. How about the folks that take the hillbilly heroin oxycontin? Will you also say they are doing it for the buzz. Do you think that Montell Williams is lying when he said that his pot use is beneficial when he is battling multiplescorosis or do you think he is only doing it for the buzz?
130 posted on 04/11/2006 11:49:56 AM PDT by hodaka
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To: American_Centurion

In your post #18, you make an explicit comparison between the 2 drugs, then in your post #57, you seem to be suggesting that no comparisons should be made. Sorry, you don't get to have it both ways.

You also seem to suggest that one can consume alcohol without abusing it, but then, somehow, smoking weed is, by definition, abusing a drug. Sorry, you don't get to have it both ways. Alcohol is a drug, too. The legality is not the topic at hand.

I think it is absolute fantasy for one to believe that a couple of drinks in an hour does not produce a "buzz". Maybe if you're drinking 3.2% beer in an Ohio bar on a Sunday (used to be and maybe still is all a bar could sell on a Sunday), but 2 gin and tonics in an hour will catch you a buzz, as will 2 glasses of wine, or whatever.

I don't quarrel at all with the notion that smoking to get wasted, or drinking to get drunk, is abuse on some level. I completely reject (on the basis of ample personal experience) that social weed smoking is qualitatively different from social drinking. The drinker's intent is meaningless, putting alcohol is your system is taking drugs, and it WILL have an effect on your body, just the same as someone taking a couple of hits off a joint (whether you choose to believe or recognize it or not).

Check out this website: http://www.ou.edu/oupd/bac.htm

2 beers in one hour sets your blood alcohol to .02, possible impairment. This fact does some damage to your simplistic theory that there is no buzz for 2 drinks in an hour.


172 posted on 04/11/2006 1:03:14 PM PDT by dmz
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To: American_Centurion
1-2 drinks in an hour with a meal does not equal a mild buzz.

What universe are you in?

245 posted on 04/14/2006 9:40:21 AM PDT by wireman
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