[D-Chivas]

Equating what Hugh Hefner did in the 1950s with modern-day pornography, much less even something like Larry Flynt's Hustler Magazine, is absurd.

If anything, Hef is similar to Jann Wenner of "Rolling Stone" magazine fame. A long time ago it was a breakthrough of sorts, but it has long since stopped being relevant to Zeitgeist. Plus, today's Playmates are Photoshopped and siliconed to ridiculous levels.

[Steve_Seattle]

I friend of mine had the Playboy channel, and most of what was on there seemed a tease, very frustrating, actually. The men never got what they wanted, only a promise and a letdown, sometimes with actual taunting from the women. There actually seemed to be quite a bit of contempt for men, not women, in what I saw.

[ArGee]

If anything, Hef is similar to Jann Wenner of "Rolling Stone" magazine fame. A long time ago it was a breakthrough of sorts, but it has long since stopped being relevant to Zeitgeist.

What you're describing is a difference in degree, not a difference in kind.

Shalom.