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To: Proud Conservative2; Beagle8U

Thanks ever so much for the link to George Allen. He DID vote for CAFTA and would love to take our guns away from us. George Allen is nothing but a Rockefeller Republican which is worse than a Democrat.


119 posted on 04/11/2006 6:19:39 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: texastoo
From the NRA website..

After studying the issue, Sen. Allen came to the conclusion that: "The simple fact is the Assault Weapons Ban only attacks the cosmetic features of a gun, banning some guns even though they function exactly the same as hundreds of other semi-automatic firearms."

He noted that, "In Virginia we have seen that incarcerating violent felons is the best crime reduction policy. I still believe our focus should be on criminals, not guns, and it should be on programs that work, like Project Exile and the Abolition of Parole."

Sen. Allen also expressed his concern "that reauthorizing this gun ban legislation will serve as a platform, inviting added restrictions on Second Amendment rights. The current law, then, only makes sense if the ultimate goal it is to ban more and more guns in the future, something I cannot support. This can be seen in several proposals that permanently ban a large number of guns that citizens lawfully use for competition, hunting or self defense."

The NRA doesn't seem to think Allen is anti-gun, but what the hell would they know about gun issues.
123 posted on 04/11/2006 9:28:17 AM PDT by Beagle8U (John McCain, you treasonous bastard)
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To: texastoo

2005 According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2005, Senator Allen voted more liberal on social policy issues than 0 percent of the Senators.

2005 According to the National Journal - Composite Conservative Score's calculations, in 2005, Senator Allen voted more conservative on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 86 percent of the Senators


I can dig up all the interest group ratings on George Allen that you wish, but its a waste of band width to post everything here just because you don't care to check for yourself.

George Allen is Conservative on fiscal and social issues, he will be supported by every major Conservative group in 2008, and he is electable.

If you don't wish to support him thats fine, but its rather dishonest to label him a RINO or a liberal.


128 posted on 04/11/2006 12:13:04 PM PDT by Beagle8U (John McCain, you treasonous bastard)
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To: texastoo
Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---54
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
DeMint (R-SC)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Frist (R-TN)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---45
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Burns (R-MT)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (R-SC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)

Not Voting - 1
Lieberman (D-CT)

That was the final Senate vote on CAFTA.

I posted before that Allen had voted no, that was wrong because it wasn't the final vote, he voted yes on the bill just as many other good Conservatives did.
129 posted on 04/11/2006 1:48:38 PM PDT by Beagle8U (John McCain, you treasonous bastard)
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