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1 posted on 04/09/2006 8:40:23 PM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Whoops...this thread must be pulled...as it undermines the Bush Bot legacy...

Any facts in contravention of preconceived opinion and political expediency are in direct conflict with the GOP and Bush agenda...

HOW DARE YOU POST THIS DRIVEL?

Amnesty and reward for illegal aliens is part of the GOP platform...you should be ashamed for posting this thread...

STILL WAITING FOR THE REAL OUTRAGE....TAP TAP TAP...ANYONE HOME?

2 posted on 04/09/2006 8:45:18 PM PDT by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH - PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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In more evidence that the American people want a tougher crackdown on illegal immigration than anything favored by Congress or the media, 62 percent told Time that they favored using the military to guard the border. Just 35 percent opposed.

Yes, and neither do we want hoards of illegal aliens making demands and clogging our cities. This is an INVASION OF AMERICA BY ANOTHER COUNTRY. Why are our elected officials not stopping it - an invasion. Yes, one can argue that anyone here, legal or illegal, has a right to protest granted in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but this is an invasion! We are loosing our sovereignty. What is happening on the southern border is unprecedented. Not only in our own history, but in the history of the world. No country at any time anywhere has sustained the influx of tens of millions of foreigners across its borders.

3 posted on 04/09/2006 8:48:40 PM PDT by p23185 (Being trashed by the Stone Age Press should be worn as a badge of honor by Repubs and Conservatives)
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Wow. If the puke media comes up with this high a number, the actual number must be much higher. Well what is the GOP(minus Tancredo) going to do now ?


4 posted on 04/09/2006 8:48:51 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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If we were serious we'd pass a law something like this:

NEW LAW: "Any company or person that employs an illegal alien shall be fined an amount not less than $10,000 per day per violation. Any law enforcement agency may bring complaints regarding the employment of illegals by a person or company to any court. A citizen of the United States may make a formal complaint against any citizen or company to any law enforcement agency when the citizen believes an illegal alien has been hired illegally. In the event a court determines that a person or company has hired an illegal alien after such a formal complaint has been made the person making such a complaint shall be entitled to 50% of all fines assessed against the person or employer. In the even such payments are made to a person from such fines no state or federal income taxes may be accessed."

6 posted on 04/09/2006 8:50:48 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (What is is about "illegal" you don't understand?)
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BUILD THE WALL, then after that we can figure out what to do with the people already here.


7 posted on 04/09/2006 8:51:24 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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Here is what your neighborhood will soon look like!

8 posted on 04/09/2006 8:51:47 PM PDT by timestax
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Here's an interesting addition to your info from Rasmussen:

Voters prefer pro-enforcement candidate 67-23%!

9 posted on 04/09/2006 8:52:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - Open borders, in the age of terror, are criminal negligence.)
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If Time says 56 to 40 it's actually more like 75 to 20.


11 posted on 04/09/2006 8:55:03 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (There isn't a more appropriate way to wave the US flag than in the face of its enemies.)
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I bet tomorrow's rallies drive these numbers higher.

Build the wall, then we talk about the rest.
12 posted on 04/09/2006 8:55:36 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Carl/NewsMax; Gelato; Ladycalif; Broadside; chicagolady; Taxman; Waywardson

46% Prefer Candidate Who Favors Barrier along Mexican Border

April 7, 2006--A Rasmussen Reports national opinion survey asked Americans to choose between two hypothetical candidates with differing positions on the immigration issue.

"One candidate favors building a barrier along the Mexican border and forcing illegal aliens to leave the United States. The other candidate favors expanding the ways that foreign workers can legally get jobs in the United States."

Forty-six percent (46%) of Americans said that they prefer the candidate with the harder line on illegal aliens while 38% opt for the candidate who wants to expand legal opportunities for foreign workers to find jobs.

However, those who say the immigration issue is very important in determining their vote prefer the pro-enforcement candidate by a much larger margin, 67% to 23%. This suggests that the short-term political advantage on the immigration issue lies with those who want a tougher enforcement policy.

Fifty percent (50%) of Americans say the immigration issue is very important. Another 32% say it is somewhat important.

An earlier survey found that two-thirds of Americans believe it doesn't make sense to debate new immigration laws until we can first control our borders and enforce existing laws. That same survey found that 40% of Americans favor "forcibly" requiring all 11 million illegal immigrants to leave the United States.

While the short-term benefit may accrue to those who favor a tougher enforcement policy, the long-term implications of the issue are less clear. At the moment, neither political party enjoys unity within its own ranks on the issue. Politicians from both sides are struggling with the nuances of the issue.

Also, it's important to note very significant regional differences of intensity surrounding this issue. Earlier this year, Rasmussen Reports state-by-state surveys found that people in the Southwest tended to view the issue as important as the War in Iraq. However, those in New England considered immigration a far less important issue.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/April%20Dailies/Immigration%20April%207.htm


13 posted on 04/09/2006 8:55:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - Open borders, in the age of terror, are criminal negligence.)
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We need not just 'The Great Wall of America', but we also need a 2 mile wide mined buffer zone between the borders. As for the Rio Grande, I suggest we breed genetically enhanced Pirrhanas and rename it Rio Rojo (Red River)
15 posted on 04/09/2006 8:58:07 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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A full 75 percent (of those polled) say illegals should be denied government supplied healthcare and food stamps, with 21 percent saying they should get those benefits.

In a coincidental side note, the percentage of illegals in the US now STANDS AT 21-PERCENT!!

17 posted on 04/09/2006 8:58:49 PM PDT by Edit35
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"Mr. Bush, put up this wall."


23 posted on 04/09/2006 9:01:56 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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Meanwhile PHXNews reports Hispanic News on April 3 published a new website AxAOL.com for coordinating marches, rallies and/or protests"..."which, they say, will become the vehicle for getting the message out throughout the USA to boycott AOL (owned by Time Warner)...and especially Lou Dobbs over on CNN being described as a "raving populist xenophobe" and "champion zealot bashing "illegal immigration" each night promoting HR 4437 as the only way of dealing with "Broken Borders" to protect the USA."
27 posted on 04/09/2006 9:05:41 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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James N. Clymer
National Chairman, Constitution Party

(snip)

Said Clymer:

"I think that this will be the final straw for conservatives who have held their nose and stuck with the Republican Party as they watched it trash nearly every core principle that identified it as a conservative party: protecting the peace, controlling spending, limiting government, and being strong on law and order. Placing illegal immigrants on a fast track to citizenship is a frontal assault on law and order. President Bush has deliberately chosen not to enforce our immigration laws, and then declared immigration to be out of control...I predict that the Republican rank-and-file will not follow their leaders in the "Millionaire's Club" out this particular gangplank.

The only way that Senate Republicans can avoid incurring the wrath of the voters this November is by backing away from this capitulation on principle, Clymer stated. "This curious alliance between the leftists and much of the business community is an abdication of their duty and their oath to uphold the Constitution. It gives compromise a bad name, "continued Clymer. He suggested that those like Sen. Jeff Sessions, who have held onto their principles, will be okay; but that "the rest of these Republicans will need to look to the Democratic Party for their votes, and that flat-out won't happen."


60 posted on 04/09/2006 9:55:23 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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Ouch...that has to hurt for the RINOS and Jorge.

Hi Carl...good work!


63 posted on 04/09/2006 10:00:28 PM PDT by wardaddy ("I believe it is peace for our time... go home and get a nice quiet sleep")
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let them keep marching...this numbers will only go up with all that Reconquista crap


64 posted on 04/09/2006 10:01:12 PM PDT by wardaddy ("I believe it is peace for our time... go home and get a nice quiet sleep")
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Maybe there's hope yet.


68 posted on 04/09/2006 10:08:54 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM -- The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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Americans support building a security fence along the entire 2,000 mile U.S.- Mexican border by a landslide, a new Time magazine poll has found.




No they don't, it's a bald faced lie!


So sayeth the FROBL's.


72 posted on 04/09/2006 10:14:33 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (C)
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Not a fence. A wall.


73 posted on 04/09/2006 10:15:11 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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